• norimee@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Why do we still give this guy a platform and attention?

    He loves to polarize and to rile the public up. Worst thing for him would be, if the whole world ignores him and just doesn’t take notice anymore.

    If nobody shared his tweets anymore.

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        Ignoring his sex trafficking and exploitation doesn’t make it go away. I am also very doubtful his little pick up artist discord would go away by being ignored either. Lengthy jail time is the only way to address him and his brother

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    You can’t be racist to Andrew Tate because he’s not a human.

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      Don’t dehumanize him. He’s a human just like you and me, and we must stay vigilant to our friends and our selves to not become like Andrew Tate or any other people who have terrible unchecked thoughts and actions.

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          I do not doubt or counter the terrible things he has done and continues to do.

          He is a despicable person.

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          3 months ago

          Why are you calling a sexist pig by pronouns that make him sound like a nonbinary QT?

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            Because, and this might be my own perceptions, terms like “they” or “them” for non-binary is for acknowledging humans. To me, that’s the least way I can acknowledge their existence. As a fellow human being (if I knew their name, that would probably be easier). But you use words like “it” for insects, or worms, or spiders, or a pile of trash, or pre or post morning coffee dump. Let me tell you, they’re both surprisingly consistent piles of shit

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              Well I know plenty of enbies and/or objectkin who use it/its pronouns and I don’t agree with you using their pronouns to insult a conservative. As a gay otherkin enby who’s attracted to gay otherkin enbies, the pronoun set it/its applied to a sapient being turns on the part of my brain that looks for attractive people. So I feel as though you’re trying to convince me that Tate is a viable sexual partner. Or at least, of a gender identity I could potentially be attracted to. While using he/him others him as a privileged male, and makes it easier to view him as an asshole leveraging social inequality for personal gain.

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                I don’t mean any offense, but those words were around before the inception of non-binary lifestyles. You don’t get to claim them as exclusive use. I will continue referring to Tate as it.

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                  That’s ridiculous. They only started dropping the H from “hit” to create the word “it” during the middle ages. But nonbinary people have been around for 300,000 years. That means enbies are over 300 times as old as it/its pronouns. Why are you telling lies?

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      Don’t be such a specicist! Swamp creatures born from chemical accidents should have rights too!

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        3 months ago

        Hey don’t be mean to my boy swamp thing he’s actually very kind once you get to know him and his politics are actually very progressive - nothing like andrew Tate at all tbh

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          I didn’t see their comment, but look at their history, they must have 100 (no exaggeration) comments deleted by mod in the last two hours. Pretty weird.

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            It’s cool. I got it, and please understand this is quote (At no point is this my opinion, nor do I support the ideology. This is strictly a quote). They said “You can’t be racist towards jews because they aren’t human”

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      This tbh. Fuck Andrew Tate, but I’m not on board with being racist at him. Black people see that your acceptance of their race is conditional on you liking them.

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        Exactly, criticise literally anything else about him, or preferably basically everything. Except his skin colour or anything else he was born with.

        If I’d stayed in the UK I could easily have been a victim of this same shit, despite being born there and 50% British.

        Black people see that your acceptance of their race is conditional on you liking them.

        Wish I could upvote this more than once

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        The people being racist to him are the same terrorists currently rioting across the UK because of things he himself said, stoked by Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson, as well as the right wing media. Tate helped create a tinderbox of anti-immigration hatred that has sparked multiple days of riots, terrorising families, businesses, and the police, and when a tiny amount of the hatred he stoked gets redirected back at him, suddenly he whines.

        Yes, racism bad, but this call is coming from inside the house that he helped to build.

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      Imagine being this poor bastard and having your face be instant shorthand for “the worst person you know”. The internet is cruel.

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    Insulting somebody because of their race is never OK. There of plenty of other things to insult this piece of shit for instead of race.