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      Pretty sure it’s that they were a lesbian couple but one realises they’re a guy and the other realises they want kids so they break up but remain besties and try to set the other up

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      The link has extra panels and a comment from the artists that explains it more. This isn’t a joke so much as it is explaining their situation in a joking manner.

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      Part of the humor comes from subverting the expectations. You might expect this kind of conflict- that one wants kids the other doesn’t, that one wants to change their gender expression into something the other doesn’t like- to cause conflict. Fighting. Anger.

      Instead they just fully support each other.

      Further, it subverts the mainstream possessiveness of partners. It’s very typical for people to be like “don’t be interested in my partner!” Or to be very uncomfortable with their ex seeing other people. Instead, this person is being very supportive of their person.

      A lot of behavior in typical monogamous relationships is really shitty and selfish.

      It’s not the funniest thing ever, but that’s how I see the mechanics of it working. Subverting some relationship expectations.

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        I expected a comic strip to have a decent punch line and actually try to make the reader chuckle.

        Boy, were my expectations subverted.

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      Comics don’t have to have a joke, they can just tell a story. This is a nice story of two people who care for and support each other in spite of discovering their selves and life goals don’t sync with continuing the original relationship. They manage to break up the romance with each feeling freed rather than dumped, so they can continue to be friends. Hopefully their eventual new partners will appreciate this.

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        Who would have thought that a thing called a “comic” would be funny?

        It’s not like serious works of fiction using the same format would need a separate term like “graphic novel” or anything. That would never happen.

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            Yes, I’m sure your mother really has her finger on the pulse of nerd pop culture when it comes to nomenclature.

            “I asked my mommy” isn’t exactly a compelling argument.

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              Comics aren’t nerd anything, they’ve been mainstream since the 1930s, honey. And a large number of them haven’t been comical, although there are plenty which are. This one may be modern but it’s nothing really new. The same story could have played out in a hetero relationship between supportive adults as far back as my mother’s era. I wasn’t using her as an authority, just a representative of the populace. And to note that only a little child thinks comics have to be funny. This one may be modern but the story here isn’t all that new. It’s personal and fresh to the author, and I’m happy for them that their life is working out so well, but the plotline is straight out of a 1950s romance comic.

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                  Hey how about instead of picking fights on the Internet, or even while picking fights on the Internet, why don’t you go to your nearest blood bank and donate a pint like I’m doing now?

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          You can’t call something a graphic novel if it’s only one page long though, so what do you call it?

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            A shitty comic.

            An act of self-indulgence.

            A desperate cry from an attention starved individual.

            Take your pick.

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    There’s a weird feel from this comic for me. I’m glad that these two people could have an amicable divorce. I think the thing that feels off is how casual the decision feels in the comic. I suspect this might be why some people are having a negative reaction as well.

    Even if you think marriage isn’t forever, it’s still a promise to love and care about someone, to cherish them and share your life with them. I think if you’ve been in a marriage and seen your loved one through hard times together, this comic just feels capricious. A discussion about ending such an important component of your life happening in the span of two panels in a car ride just feels abrupt and unserious.

    I imagine in real life the conversation was more serious and the impact of changing you relationship from one of romantic love to friendship weighed on both parties more than the comic has space to show.

    If you’ve loved and supported your spouse through difficult and unexpected change or been the recipient of that love and support, this comic can feel dismissive. If you’ve gone through the heartache of losing your special person, even if they are still a part of your life, the celebratory tone sounds wrong.

    I am happy that they can separate and still care about each other, but I also understand why people feel like something is wrong about the comic.

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      I liked that about the comic.

      Our society has adopted this expectation that once a relationship has turned into love, it must remain that, and if its not eternal soul mates in total devotion, it’s not true love. You’re not allowed to dial it down, take a break from it or return to being friends, or it’s a “failed” relationship.

      The message of the comic subverts this, showing that without such baggage, you could just change the relationship to something else and still be happy.

      Instead, we assume from the beginning that the relationship is forever, throw our households together, and when the point would be right to return to normal friendship, we force ourselves to stick close until we can’t stand each other anymore.

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        The comic isn’t talking about love, it’s talking about marriage.

        I’ll preface this with the fact that I’m a straight male atheist, and I’m married. My wife and I have had rough patches, as every relationship does, but I made a commitment to her. I swore an oath that I would support her through whatever happens in this life. I didn’t swear this to God or anybody but her and myself.

        I’m a very principled person, one of those principles is that if you say you’re going to do something, you should try your level best to do it until it becomes clear it’s not possible. I don’t make promises I don’t expect to keep.

        The thing that strikes me as off about this comic is the fact that they are married. If they’d just been partners, then that’s one thing, there’s less commitment there. But marriage is a commitment to a person. It’s not a promise to having sex or feeling romantic every single day, but just a promise that you’ll be there with them during the good times and the bad times. That you’ll support them in what they want to do. There’s no need for these people to divorce if one of their sexualities is changing, because marriage isn’t about the sex.

        If my wife told me out of the blue that she thought she was interested in women, or might be trans, I would never offer divorce first. We’d have a conversation about what that means for our romantic relationship, but I still respect and care for her as a person, and would feel like I’m failing as a husband if I wanted to cut and run during a hard transition like that. I made a commitment to her, and if that’s what she wants to do, then I’ll ride it out and make sure she has as many resources as she can for a major change like that, and I know she’ll do the same thing for me. Hard times and changes don’t mean the end of a marriage, it means it’s time to buckle down, come together with your partner, and come up with a plan on how to face it together.

        I also respect that nuance like that is impossible to fit into a single page comic like this, and there does seem to be that message of supporting your partner in their decisions. I just have issue with the flippant call for divorce. Relationships and people do change, and it’s good to talk about that and acknowledge that that we should support people when they change, but divorcing them is not supporting them. The comic would have been just as good if they left out the panel about divorce and just went to “my wife is single” because an open marriage is still a valid marriage, it just means you’re not devoting your genitals to one person.

        I agree with you that our society puts a lot of importance on love, maybe too much. I’ll always love my wife, eventually. Believe me, marriage is hard, you’re not gonna feel the warm fuzzies every day, or maybe even every week, but the point is that you try. I promised myself to her because I love her. But my takeaway is that I loved her so much for years, that I promised I would always be there for her even if we’re both sick, or I’m mad at her for something, or if she’s changing as a person, and she promised the same thing. That commitment is more important than the love, because love is temperamental. You marry someone because you love them so much, you promise to be there even when you may not be feeling that love.

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    Alright… So lesbian relationship. One of them decides they’re not a woman anymore. They both decide to devorce…

    Maybe I’m missing something, but is there supposed to be a joke somewhere in here?

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      The humor for me is that you kind of expect something like this to end in bitter tears and a sad goodbye, but they’re both actually totally fine with a divorce and even hype each other up for new relationships.

      A lot of trans discovery/coming out stories don’t end very happily, so it’s nice to see one that does.

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      Their mutual regard for one another transcends what they want from the relationship, which contrasts humourously with hetero norms of trying to change one other to get what you want

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        Ok, but… That’s not something that’s funny.

        It would work in a greater narrative, perhaps, where we as readers know the characters. Not this one off thing.

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        Being selfish is hetero normative? I’m probably being defensive but this feels like a weird statement to make.

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              If your jokes made around stereotypes in queer communities are offending people the jokes are probably just veiled insults. You can do things, you just need to be at least a little versed in the community and understand how to make respectful jokes instead of demeaning ones.

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      I can’t tell if the author was serious or trying to be funny… I know I laughed at how dumb their dialogue sounds

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    They start discussing how to split their assets and suddenly it becomes less peaceful

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    To all of the people saying this is sad, not all relationships have to last forever.

    It’s okay to get separated, even if you are married. It’s actually good to realize your differences, decide that you work better apart, and provide support to an ex-spouse emotionally while you move on with your life as well.

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      I’m not sure that I fully agree. I mean, to each their own etc., but what you’re describing seems to be more suited for relationships without marriage. The whole idea of being married is that your discuss this stuff before your wedding and then don’t just get separated because you “don’t feel it anymore”. The idea is that, if you feel like you drifted apart, that your work on that and don’t just get out of that relationship on a whim. That’s the promise you give. And even if you agree with your partner to just go separate ways (yeah yeah, consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want, sure), a divorce has the significant chance to screw you financially for decades. I mean, I don’t know how it is in the US, but I’ve seen too many people who got their finances completely fucked by partners that they consentingly parted ways with, who they swore would treat them fairly. Too many houses repossessed, too many careers ruined.

      Is it okay to get separated? Sure. It’s obviously also okay to remain close and support each other, of course. But this comic promotes a lighthearted approach to something that deserves a much more careful and serious take that I don’t agree with. Those first few panels should have made them get counselling, not divorced.

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        People change. They discover things about themselves. Their goals change. Of course anyone thinking of getting married should try to uncover any potential deal breakers before committing, but it’s still no guarantee they won’t encounter unsolvable problems later.

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          I know and that’s also not what I said.

          unsolvable problems

          That’s the key word right here. Two panels of “you know, I’m feeling boyish” “and I kinda want to have kids” isn’t “trying to solve it and realizing it’s not possible”, that’s just “starting to share feelings and needs”. The way this story is told just suggests that this slight notion of plans no longer being aligned perfectly warrants a divorce, which is far from what that legal construct of “we’re a financial union now which means we can royally fuck up each other’s lives if we feel like it” should entail. This isn’t a story of unsolvable problems, this is the story of two people that don’t take the legal responsibility they got into seriously. It suggests a lighthearted approach to getting divorced that is so far from the possible legal fallout of it that I just think it’s absurd.

          If this was a comic that told years of them trying to meet each other’s needs and not being able to, I’d be on the same page. But that’s not the story that was told here. There wasn’t a single panel where either person even just tried to suggest how things might still work for them or find some common ground. No panel about acknowledging the other person’s desires and trying to merge them with one’s own needs. The comic was “I feel this”, “I feel that”, “great, let’s just happily divorce”, which is absurd as soon as we’re talking about anything that’s beyond teenage finances.

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            They’re talking about wanting children. Disagreeing on that is absolutely an unsolvable problem.

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              It certainly is if you don’t talk about it. There may be various middle grounds here but you won’t find them if you just get divorced.

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                Buddy, let me explain something to you. I do not want children. Ever. If I were married to someone who decided they wanted children, I would for sure get a divorce, because there is no compromise to be made. Having a child is all or nothing. You can’t halfway become a parent.

                Of course, anyone I might marry would understand why a divorce is necessary and wouldn’t fight me on it.

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    whomesome comic
    Lemmy: where’s the joke tho?

    Very nice though, amicable breakups/divorces are good.

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    Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a boy side of the spectrum? I’m not familiar with the phrase.

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        Mfw you get labelled a “religious bigot” because I criticise the fact that people don’t take marriage seriously anymore

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          You literally say in your profile bio that you enjoy talking about religion and Christianity.

          Oh no we don’t take your stupid christian tradition serious anymore. Boo hoo.

          Maybe people don’t want some dude in the sky to be part of their relationship?

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            Maybe people don’t want some dude in the sky to be part of their relationship?

            Same people would be crying when He ends up not wanting them in His relationship

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    I feel like the fourth panel is what throws me off and left me scratching my head. Based on the previous one I’d imagine both of them to hype each other up, not just the man saying his former wife is single.