• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Right, hence the payment. With the payment, the city could hire someone to free up time for someone to handle and redact the documents. Or pay someone overtime. Or however else the city thinks is reasonable. So instead of saying “no”, offer a labor price.

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      4 months ago

      The State only allows us to charge $15/hour for staff time for PIRs, so we can’t just hire someone or ask an employee to work an extra 20 hours a week for a year to pull some documents the requestor won’t even read.

      The thing is lots of these ludicrous requests are made by right-wing lobbyists who try to make us spend 80 grand on a pointless request so they can point out how the city is wasting money. They create problems so they can get the state to remove our ability to make local Ordinances.

      For legitimate requests, we go out of our way to meet them. I’ve spent a lot of time digging through paper files from the 1920s to help citizens.

      But most of our requests are either automated bullshit from realtors looking for cheap land, insurance companies looking for who to advertise to, contractors looking for work, lobbyists looking to stir up shit, or, oddly enough, lawn service companies.

      For those requests, we do what’s legally required and not a damn thing more.

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        4 months ago

        That makes sense, but there should always be a way to get information from a government, even if it’s expensive. Governments work for the people, so everything should have a process.

        I’m sure someone would be willing to pay hundreds of thousands to get the footage in the OP, and saying “no, is it’s too hard” isn’t acceptable.

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          4 months ago

          That’s why it’s important to hire professional city staff. For requeats that are important or reasonable, we find a way to do it. And even with the one from my example, my first reaction wasn’t “No,” but for me to clarify why the request was so difficult and for me to suggest how they might revise their request in a manner that would both be easier to provide, but also would provide more useful information.

          I keep incredibly detailed records, which is why we’ve won every court case that’s come up since I took over these duties. So I know how to search the data and parse out what is actually useful.