I think we’d be better off dealing with the illegal actions of some unhinged Trump mourners than dealing with a legal second Trump administration for 4 (or more?) years.
I disagree with this completely. I believe if he had been killed his supporters would massively ramp up the division that exists now, which would be bad. Revenge, and Retribution are terms used by trump and his followers. I think under that reality it would have triggered some awful things.
When a sudden power vacuum appears, two things are likely to happen. One, there’s a mad scramble to grab that power and two, they’ll turn on each other in the attempt. But that’s all that seems certain.
Leadership would change hands and divisions would deepen, but they’ve been on a path of retribution and violence for a long time now. Trump’s exit wouldn’t end that.
Would love for you to expand “already doing that” in relation to what I was suggesting. I do not see political opponents being physically attacked, I do not see/hear of any armed mobs actively physically trying to ‘take their country back’.
I think that because of 1) trump is still alive and 2) this cook kid doesn’t seem to fit the narrative of their enemy has kept things ‘civil’.
Would love for you to expand “already doing that” in relation to what I was suggesting. I do not see political opponents being physically attacked, I do not see/hear of any armed mobs actively physically trying to ‘take their country back’.
You already forgot about Paul Pelosi? The plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan? January 6th? Gabby Giffords? The Proud Boys? Charlottesville? Austin Combs? Kyle Rittenhouse?
Do you need me to keep going? I can name the armed mobs trying to ‘take their country back’ until the cows come home and barely scratch the surface.
There is nowhere to “ramp up the division” any further, it’s already at the point where the news simply can’t keep up with all the political violence in this country.
You already don’t ever hear about the FBI and Secret Service following up on death threats to politicians anymore, that stopped being a story decades ago. Bomb threats against institutions like schools are so common that word of them rarely escalates beyond the local area. Mass shootings occur regularly, but only the most egregious ones make the news.
I think we’d be better off dealing with the illegal actions of some unhinged Trump mourners than dealing with a legal second Trump administration for 4 (or more?) years.
I disagree with this completely. I believe if he had been killed his supporters would massively ramp up the division that exists now, which would be bad. Revenge, and Retribution are terms used by trump and his followers. I think under that reality it would have triggered some awful things.
They’re doing that anyway, the only difference is that their martyr is still alive to lead them.
I’m inclined to agree.
When a sudden power vacuum appears, two things are likely to happen. One, there’s a mad scramble to grab that power and two, they’ll turn on each other in the attempt. But that’s all that seems certain.
Leadership would change hands and divisions would deepen, but they’ve been on a path of retribution and violence for a long time now. Trump’s exit wouldn’t end that.
He’ll likely die of a heart attack or stroke and MAGA folks will still blame the left for it.
Would love for you to expand “already doing that” in relation to what I was suggesting. I do not see political opponents being physically attacked, I do not see/hear of any armed mobs actively physically trying to ‘take their country back’.
I think that because of 1) trump is still alive and 2) this cook kid doesn’t seem to fit the narrative of their enemy has kept things ‘civil’.
You already forgot about Paul Pelosi? The plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan? January 6th? Gabby Giffords? The Proud Boys? Charlottesville? Austin Combs? Kyle Rittenhouse?
Do you need me to keep going? I can name the armed mobs trying to ‘take their country back’ until the cows come home and barely scratch the surface.
I’m talking about as a response to him being murdered vs. not. Didn’t think i needed to explain the context of my comment.
Editing for the literal context from my original comment.
That is exactly the point I’m referring to.
There is nowhere to “ramp up the division” any further, it’s already at the point where the news simply can’t keep up with all the political violence in this country.
You already don’t ever hear about the FBI and Secret Service following up on death threats to politicians anymore, that stopped being a story decades ago. Bomb threats against institutions like schools are so common that word of them rarely escalates beyond the local area. Mass shootings occur regularly, but only the most egregious ones make the news.
America has been collapsing for decades now.
Bring it on, get it over with. The Civil War would have been much worse if Jefferson Davis was president instead of Lincoln.
And on the other hand, DeSantis vs Biden? Uh ohhh
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