• Nakedmole@lemmy.world
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    This is playing down the actual behavior of fascists in a very careless way.

    • They do not just kick out minorities, once in power they systematically hunt down and murder them!

    • They do not just jail dissenters, once in power they systematically hunt down and murder them!

    • They do not just “say no” to Jews, once in power they systematically hunt down and murder them!

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      4 months ago

      Not to be defending Fascists, but those you describe are the Nazi style ones.

      Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece too had Fascist dictatorships and those pretty much did not care about Jews or minorities and whilst they were all autoritarian and happy to use state violence for oppression and suppression of dissidents, the only ones who did anything close to systematical murder were the ones in Spain in their early days and their targets were mainly those they deemed “Communists”.

      By comparison Zionists are more murderous than all of those 4, though not as much as the Nazis, and consider and treat a whole different ethnic group as “human animals” than the Nazis did.

      In fact the use of specific ethnicities for Fascism in that table is a pretty good indication that the author(s) are deeply racist with a very specific slant on who their “good” ethnicities and “bad” ethnicities are: even without going into the whole Israel thing, just look at Modi in India to see Fascism in action whithout the perpetrators being White or the victims Jews.

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        is a pretty good indication that the author(s) are deeply racist

        Or, maybe, they’re just using the most well-known instance of fascism in history as a concrete example, in order to not overcomplicate the message. Jumping to accusations of racism at the slightest suspicion is not gonna help anyone.

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          They’re doing the standard reverse racism charge, because you see, noticing racism is actually the real racism.

          In the English speaking world, anti-white racism isn’t really a thing.

          Some people will swear up and down that it is, but those people think racism is just a set of attitudes towards a race of people, and not a deeply entrenched system of oppression against entire swathes of society.

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            Racism is seeing race as what makes people “goodies” or “badies”. The “good” races and “bad” races in your thinking being different from those of mid and early XXth century racism in Western nations is wholly irrelevant for asserting that thinking like that is being a Racist.

            The opposite of Racist is not a Racist with an opposite list of “good” and bad “races”, it’s somebody who thinks it’s not race that makes people be “good” or “bad”.

            It’s pretty telling that your entire defense of somebody else assigning race as cause of certain behaviours is to say that indeed for certain races, race is the cause of that behaviour and presume that the denial of that by others is due to the specific race which was said to be “badies”.

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              Please show me where I said white people were the bad people.

              It’s not a long comment I made so it shouldn’t be hard to find it, unless I said no such thing.

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                Yeah, you’re right on that point: you’re dividing people into behavioural groups using “English speaking world” as identity tag rather than a race.

                So the prejudice you voiced was using “geographical area of birth defined by language spoken” to presume unrelated characteristics of people, rather race.

                It was indeed incorrect and unfair of my part to accuse you of voicing prejudice by race when the prejudice you voiced was by “geographical area of birth”.

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                  Please tell me where in my comment I said anyone were bad people because of their “geographical area of birth”.

                  It wasn’t a very long comment I made so it shouldn’t be hard to find it, unless I said no such thing.

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                    Please tell me where in my comment I said that you said "anyone were bad people because of their ‘geographical area of birth’”.

                    It wasn’t a very long comment I made so it shouldn’t be hard to find it, unless I said no such thing.