• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      What do they say? Because I am a lifelong antifascist and communist and we love Jewish people but shun Zionism, maybe you have conflated the two.

          • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            No. You all just have what brains you have, so far in fantasy land, common sense sounds like trolling. Like it’s 2024 and yall think communism is an option. FFS, you huys talk about pattern recogntion and trustin the sciencem, try readin a fucking book and not dieregarding the repeated results.

            • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              5 months ago

              Yeah, so all you have is shit you read. Brilliant.

              -John McMurray, “Totally not a Troll Guys”

              I can’t tell - do I need to read a book or live on the coast? Message unclear.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      5 months ago

      I mostly only hear good things about Jews from the left. I hear a lot of negative thoughts on Israel (which does not represent jews, and are just a state) and zionism. Most jews are no Israeli and/or Zionist. Many Israeli jews aren’t in favor of the current government, their actions, or zionism either. There is a clear distinction between the three, and only being against one is anti-semetic.

      • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Did I stutter? If I meant Israel, I would have said so. Why do people have this much trouble with direct statements? I generaly suspect they want multiple paragraphs to dissect because they can’t find what they need in concise statements.

          • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            Just cause you’ve never left your fucking basement, doesn’t mean others haven’t hung out with the hippies, burners and crazies in Portland, Vancouver, Seattle and LA for years

            • ameancow@lemmy.world
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              5 months ago

              You know what’s worse than being a basement dweller? It’s being unaware that you’re vulnerable to propaganda, being unaware that you’re an emotional creature and your brain doesn’t try to make sense, it tries to connect stories and ideas to explain why you’re feeling what you feel.

              In other words, you can be a smart person and easily influenced into positions that either are not your own, or not even connected to reality just because you had a feeling once validated by someone saying the right thing at the right time and you don’t question the story that you start piecing together in your head.

              So the question you would need to always ask yourself, is what is it that you feel that you need to cling to such cynical and hateful stereotypes to the extent of even invalidating or denying the testimony of others who are directly contradicting your obviously exaggerated tales of “listening to hippies talk about jews.”

              You are describing a personal experience and because it validates some feeling you already had, it feels like a real evaluation of the broader world. Other people who do this include: scientologists, flat-earthers, modern nazis, cult members and generally people who just go through life angry and miserable and blaming that misery on others. Don’t be a pawn to others or your own brain, have some control over your narratives.

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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              5 months ago

              Just cause you’ve never left your fucking basement,

              So you freely and openly make up assumptions and lies about people based on whether or not they agree with you, and you expect me to believe you totally met a bunch of hippies at Portland, Vancouver, Seattle and LA. For years. You hang out with hippies all the time. Can’t leave your house without bumping into a hippie that introduces themselves to you with “I’m Antifa and I hate Jews!”

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                  5 months ago

                  Never claimed I had. Good thing all the racist Antifa love in Portland. Keeps them all contained.

                  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
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                    5 months ago

                    Just take a moment to bask in the notion that “it’s pretty plain you’ve never been to Portland” without any clarification implies that actually they do constantly bump into hippies that say, "I’m Antifa and I hate Jews!” or at least something along those lines.

                    This is so unbelievably unhinged. I honestly think it’s bad to remove comments like theirs, because they show so clearly how wrong that person is.

                    Even claiming they live on the coast as if that explains anything is just playing right into the Fox News canard about “coastal elites” which itself carries antisemitic undertones.

                    They’re being so vague about it, I assume because they live on “THE COAST” and it’s all just so intense and self-evidently evil that they are completely incapable of giving any specific details whatsoever.

        • ameancow@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          Well SHIT son, you lived on the COAST??

          Well that shit changes everything, I had no idea you overheard things out on the coast, I mean I was here ready to talk about crime stats and systemic inequality and the USA’s history with civil rights, but here is a person who heard some stuff out on the coast! I guess I should reconsider everything and stop supporting efforts to squash nazis in an industrial nazi-squashing machine.