• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    450+ million guns, you’re not stopping gang violence like this which is the mass majority of all of our gun crime, by banning guns from lawful citizens. Dudes like this are already barred. Why don’t you ask, why out system let him out.

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      1 year ago

      Says man from only country where this happens regularly.

      Plenty of other countries haven’t banned guns from lawful citizens and dont have this problem.

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        Ok, man from perfect country. How would you personally solve this problem of gun violence? Would you form a posse and roundup all of the crazed lunatics out there who would dare to try and protect their families with a firearm? Would you raid the houses of anyone who may or may not have owned a gun in the past and search under the floorboards?

        Seriously I want to know. How would you help all of these mentally ill people who seem to think that guns are toys, or just deeply want to harm other people?

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          You don’t need me to tell you that. You wouldn’t believe me anyway. There are plenty of professionals who have studied and acquired factual data of how other “perfect countries” do it and the differences. From the differences the solutions become very clear.

          It’s about restricting access, not banning. There’s no one size fits all solution because nothing is perfect so you pick your poison. Find a country where this doesn’t happen every day (so any developed country), look a the way they do things and pick the one you prefer to support - they all have upsides and downsides. What you have isn’t working though.

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            Every country that has basically an effective ban, also has safety nets for the people, doesn’t have a gang problem like we do, and focuses on education and not locking everyone up. They also never had 450+ million firearms in civilian hands. So please share with the class how you think you could pull it off without having all those safety nets in place.

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                I’m fine with adding in the safety nets, they’ll do 100xs more than any regulation you put in place will do. I’m not ok giving over a monopoly on force to people like the current Republicans. Why any of you think that’s a good idea is just insane.

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                  How does regulating guns so this sort of thing doesn’t happen again give Republicans a monopoly on force?

                  You think the only way to even out the odds is to keep guns in the hands of dangerously mentally ill people? Really?

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                    Because the only way for shit like this to not happen in your world of gun regulation, requires a total ban.

                    And a total ban gives whoever is in charge of the government a monopoly on force.

                    People like you will call Republicans nazis and fascist…then want to remove any force multiplier from civs and then pray they don’t get elected. You’re naive at best and ignorant at worse.