• FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Oh but you and I agree. We both love defending Lindsey Graham and giving him the benefit of the doubt because he’s earned it. Keep on fighting the good fight brother

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      5 months ago

      Well, but now I’m not so sure. Maybe we should start just embracing whatever things “feel true,” whether or not they correspond to reality. Like, we have these facts that are supported by evidence, but what if we had, let’s call them, “alternative facts.” Maybe what really matters is how true something feels to us, a sort of “truthiness,” if you will. If we untether ourselves from evidence, think of all the things we could say! Like, what if we said Trump was operating a sex trafficking ring in the basement of a pizza shop, and accused anyone pushing back or asking for evidence of “defending Trump?”

      I call it, “Blue MAGA.” I know you’re all about making sure claims are based on evidence even when they’re about people you don’t like, but I really think you might like that idea.

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        5 months ago

        One point of clarification friend. I never said Lindsey does not support Ukraine. I said his reason for supporting anything is always self-serving, which there is mountains of evidence of. You could wave your hand and do the centrist “whatabout” all politicians being self-serving. But the fact is that Lindsey Graham is one of the most obvious modern examples of flip flopping on issues to benefit himself. If you have a counter example I’d love to read about it.

        My original point is that it really doesn’t matter what someone like Lindsey says or supports today, because it will change with the wind tomorrow (when he’s up for election usually)

        You took what I said and made a beautiful little Blue MAGA strawman out of it.

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          5 months ago

          Right, so you’re just going to gloss over all your sarcastic replies mocking me and characteristing me as “defending Graham” for pointing out that there’s no evidence that his support for Ukraine is insincere.

          Good talk.

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              5 months ago

              A classic finisher. Just put it at the end of any argument and declare victory, instant win, no counter, Riot plz nerf.

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                5 months ago

                Do you have any evidence that’s what I’m doing? I didn’t declare victory. You definitely won this argument!!! I had no chance competing against such an onslaught of arguments unrelated to what I actually said to begin with. I loved the part where you made up a belief system and aspects of my personality at the same time you argued for evidence based conclusions. It really drove your point home! I understand everything clearly now

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                  5 months ago

                  I didn’t declare victory. You definitely won this argument!!!

                  Oh, well then thank you.