The cluster B people can be really alluring. I met a gorgeous woman once who was extremely enthusiastic about dating me. She couldn’t get enough of me. I was an awkward nerd who had never experienced anything like that before, and I liked it. I liked it a lot. After six months of dating, she asked me to marry her. I foolishly said “yes” - I knew it was crazy but here was this sexy, smart, funny woman literally begging me to accept her as my wife.
Accepting her proposal flipped a switch. She had been high-strung before, but now completely random things would set her off and she would start yelling at me. She would yell at me in front of my family. She would even call me at work to yell at me because she remembered something and it made her angry at me. She was extremely jealous - I stopped talking to any of my female friends because even mentioning them made her flip out, but she still got mad that I wanted to spend time with my grandmother and my dog. She also started sending weird text messages to my relatives. For example, she kept telling my father that she wished she was not married to me.
The thing is, she wasn’t always awful or else it would have been easy to leave. In between her angry outbursts she was still as affectionate as she had been before, but now I was constantly afraid that something would set her off. She was tiny and never physically violent but I was scared of her. I decided to divorce her after she yelled at me for wanting to include my family in my birthday celebration; the marriage had lasted six months.
Anyway, where was I going with this… Men have to watch out too. Usually we imagine abuse as something a man does to a woman, but that’s not the only form it can take.
been there, done that.
stay strong.
been happier alone for the past 5 years then i ever was when i was with cluster b ladies. they make your life a living hell.
but it’s hard to date women who aren’t super into you the way cluster b women are. i’ve had women say they are interested in me the past few years… but they never make me feel like they are… they seem totally disinterested. cluster b woman actually make a very concerted effort to get involved with you… the average woman expects you to do all the work in that regard, ime.
Of course, the BPD women are love bombing you as a technique to manipulate you specifically, so in the end it really isn’t that good. I’m working on it too, so I’m gonna say “we” here, but we have to work on retraining our brains to not need that intense feeling anymore if we expect to have a normal healthy relationship again.
initial attraction/chemistry is all that matters to 99% of people. training or not, that’s just life. It’s why drugs are fun, gambling is awesome, and fatty sugar foods taste so good.
that’s why cluster b people, male or female, are so great at dating. they create the sparks with most everyone. normies don’t. especially given heteronormative gender roles where women are passive in dating.
Yep, fell for the same trap (minus the marriage, but lived 3.5 years of literal hell instead), and that bullshit shapes you more than everything.
The worst part is being accused of being unempathetic, even though you put almost everything aside for them, just to be met with hatred when you inevitably set them off again.
Brother, I hope you are now in a better place in life. Stay frosty :)
Yep. My exes like this always made me feel like I was this awful abusive monster of a person… for having totally normal boundaries and realistic timelines. turns out they were the monster.
Yup, dated someone with BPD. I ended the romantic relationship when I couldn’t take the drama, tried to stay friends because I honestly worried about her and wanted to provide support.
Ended the friendship after the second time she called and held me hostage on the phone for hours, telling me if I hung up or didn’t agree to date again, she’d kill herself.
She texted me for the next 8 months with constantly changing numbers calling me terrible things, sometimes hundreds of messages a day.
Messed me up. Would not recommend.
amen. i had a relationship i ended 6 years ago because of lying. she stalked me for months afterward while she was already engaged to another guy… it was incredibly f’ed up and i feel awful for that poor dude. i ended up having to delete all my socials before she finally gave up.
I am super glad I didn’t marry her. despite her wanting to marry me. I knew something was ‘off’.
Dare I ask what “cluster b” means?
Cluster B personality disorders are characterized by dramatic, emotional, or erratic behaviors, and difficulties regulating emotions and behavior.
Thanks, this entire post makes more sense now.
Although I gotta ask, at that point is it possible OP also has some issues…?
Very plausible. Sometimes this happens to people who grow up with family who have cluster b personality disorders. It’s like they’re conditioned to be good partners to people who have it. Ask me how I know.
…how do you know?
Mother had BPD, possibly ASPD, brother had NPD. I have a tendency to attract people who suffered intense childhood trauma.
I’m picturing you going on a first date and just casually asking something like “So, childhood abuse yes or no?”
Often times, you don’t need to ask. You can just tell.
Like another comment said, sometimes you can just sense it, but often enough they will just tell me. I have heard so many stories, frequently about sexual assault by a family member, from someone I had just met or barely knew.
Is it possible? Dude rejected a woman for having “a blown up vagina” and taking “too much birth control”… Those aren’t real things and they’re a good sign that OP has some real incel mentality. It’s quite possible he’s being an ass then when his partner reacts emotionally he says “cluster b, blown up vagina, too much birth control” and leaves.
In the main mental health manual called the DSM there is a category of personality disorders, and cluster b is a subset of those disorders containing narcissism, borderline and histrionic personality disorders all of which share in common that they predispose the person who has them to act in “dramatic and erratic” ways.
If some random came to me complaining that almost all of the several partners he’s had are all Cluster B, I’d immediately begin wondering if perhaps the issue isn’t that they’re all crazy, but rather that this random guy is uncapable of making the barest minimum effort to emotionally connect with anyone. If he also says shit like “vagina exploded because of clandestine dildo usage, too much birth control”, I’m simply just not gonna give him any benefit of the doubt.
Due to skim reading, I didn’t see where it said “vagina exploded because of clandestine dildo usage”, and seeing the phrase in your comment made me reread OP incredulously. Yeah no, I agree with you
Anon lacks introspection
About sums up 99% of 4chan posts
What the fuck is “cluster B”?
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/cluster-b-personality-disorders
- cluster B: antisocial, borderline, histrionic, narcissistic
I had to look it up.
Ah so they had human emotions and mental health struggles.
When someone says “I’m a drama magnet” they are the drama. When someone says “I attract psychos” they are the psycho. More likely than not this chud learned the term “Cluster B” and just pounds that button on anything that remotely makes him feel uncomfortable.
edit: one, single, lone grump read this and said “We should be able to call females Cluster B whenever we want!” and slammed the downvote button with one greasy finger. I don’t know why I find that image so fuckin funny.
Sounds like legitimate psychology incels gonna use this to sound more valid. The “blown up vagina” “too much birth control” are giant red arrows pointing at this. Sad.
Easy, marry the childhood friend. Ez loving for 2 months then you get to keep her stuff. Use story of dead wife as checkmate to cluster b issues. Once cluster b chicks find out about each other leave state and repeat. Next caller please
“It smells like shit everywhere I go why does everything smell so bad no I won’t look at the bottom of my shoe”
Vagina exploded?
I’m equally as concerned about “too much birth control”
How the fuck does that work?
Yeah, I feel like anyone giving OOP the benefit of the doubt is overlooking that part.
“Every girl I date is mentally ill” Wow that’s crazy bro, have you considered that you are also mentally ill and an asshole to boot?
Snakes in the head, snakes in the bed.
That sounds like too many snakes
Something something plane
Something something motherfucking plane
FTFY
I have had it with the mother loving snakes on this Monday to Friday plane!
