• Phen@lemmy.eco.br
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    6 months ago

    For weight, yeah. It’s still unhealthy for many reasons but if you only care about weight that’the thing that matters

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      6 months ago

      It’s far better for your health to be a healthy weight and unfit than to be overweight and unfit.

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        6 months ago

        OTOH, if you eat a lot of shitty food, it can very well be the case, that you just get enough essential nutrients by the sheer amount of food you’re eating. That would mean that by cutting the amount without changing what you eat, you’d get into malnutrition.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, it is not easy.

      We seem to have primarily high calorie foods. The reason people change diets to get some low calorie ones that keep them feeling full.

      Another thing, but perhaps not as much related to losing weight is that food doesn’t exactly work like most people think i.e. it isn’t that we consume something then we get energy from it and then we excrement it. In reality our body absorbes the food and uses it for other functions. So unhealthy food still affects us negatively.

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        6 months ago

        Most people don’t realize we loose weight by breathing, not excrements. You breath in O2, you breath out CO2. Same volume (since gases have more or less the same volume per molecule), but 37.5 % heavier. That’s how you loose weight.

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      6 months ago

      Or the same quantity and start being active, much more likely to keep up with it long term as well.

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        6 months ago

        The problem about being active, is that the moment you stop you’ll put the weight right back on. Most people don’t take up going to the gym for decades, it’ll last a few months, maybe a few years. Long term weight management needs to be about food intake.

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          6 months ago

          Physical activity make you generate hormones that push you to continue doing it, weight management through food intake does the contrary, weight management through increased activity has much better long term results than going on a diet.

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            6 months ago

            Physical activity make you generate hormones that push you to continue doing it

            I don’t experience this at all. I don’t enjoy working out at all even after years of doing it consistently. I still have to force myself every time.

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        6 months ago

        You can’t outrun your fork. If OOP had 150lbs to lose, it’s unlikely he could’ve continued eating the same amount and burnt that weight off.

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          If you’re at maintenance at 2500 and start doing more physical activities you’re burning more calories.

          “You can’t outrun your fork” doesn’t mean you can’t increase how much you’re burning without increasing how much you’re eating, the result is the same, in that case you’re not depriving yourself and for this reason the results tend to stick.

          Source: GF is a dietitian

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            6 months ago

            I get it, but if homie was 150 lbs overweight then he was probably eating wayyyy more than maintenance and would’ve continued to gain if he didn’t change his eating habits.

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              If someone is 150lbs overweight and sticking to that weight long term then the same logic applies (they’re not staying at that weight by eating the average maintenance for their sex), increasing the calories they burn while eating the same number of calories as before will induce weight loss because they’ll be at a deficit. They’ll reach equilibrium at some point and they could continue increasing their activity level to continue losing weight, the same thing happens with adjusting your food intake, if you eat 3500 calories to keep your weight at 300lbs and you cut down to 3000 calories your weight will go down, but you’ll never end up weighting 120lbs by sticking to 3000 calories.

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                I don’t think you realize how few calories are burned by exercise relative to the amount packed into our food, especially if you eat without thinking about it. I was dancing for a while, 8 hours straight of sometimes very intensive cardio, and only burning like 1000 extra calories (according to my fitbit) on those days just to feel like shit the next day from all that work, which would definitely have driven me to eat even more if I wasn’t paying attention to my diet or able to control my impulses (which tbh I think one or the other can be assumed for someone 100+ lbs overweight).

                Even the most intensive bike ride or couple hours at the gym can be eaten away in as few as 7-10 oreos or a large fountain drink. Sure, if you just need to trim a pound or two to get to your ideal weight, exercise alone can do that along with many other great benefits if you can commit to it daily, but you simply cannot expect to see results if you are habitually overeating highly caloric/low nutritional value foods and do not change those habits.

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                  6 months ago

                  “According to my Fitbit”

                  Starting on a high note I see

                  You burn 2200 a day doing nothing and eat 2200 a day, your weight stays the same

                  You start jogging 3 miles a day that’s 240 to 420 calories right there, don’t eat any more than you did and you’re at 240 to 420 calories in deficit.

                  Don’t jog and cut 240 to 420 calories a day and you have the same impact on your weight.

                  There’s no magic to it, it’s fucking maths! The difference is how hard it is for the results to last if you just do it through changing your eating habits, there’s a reason why about 90% of people who go on a diet just gain their weight back, they didn’t build a healthy habit, they make their life miserable for a while and then go back to eating the same as before.

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    6 months ago

    I dunno man. My neighbor is a big ass boi and his wife is a smoke show.

    Maybe try getting a personality

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    I wish I could just eat a pill once a day marked with desired bmi and forget about eating and focus on real stuff instead. I can barely hit 17.7 bmi even with some huel powder in a cup that is a hassle to wash. I want like 20 bmi to not look like a stick but it is hard to remember to eat that much

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      The part of this that sucks is that one day this shit just stops. Went from skinny stick figure constantly being told to eat more and put on weight while eating SO much, then I hit 35 and all of a sudden I’m 15kg overweight and sporting a nice double chin.

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        Sorry if this comes off as a aggressive, but ive yet to see any of the “changes in an instant” things people say actually happen. For example, before you know it 10 years has gone by! Or yours, suddenly your belly just pops out!

        When I gained 80 weight like that, it was very easy to point to the steps along the way. Its also important to realize how long it took to gain weight, as it can affect how quick you think you can lose it.

        I’m almost positive its just people not paying attention. If its important to you then pay attention to it. If it was so unimportant that it seemed sudden, was it really that important to begin with?

        Is it just people suddenly caring about something that they didnt for their whole lives and having to deal with all of it at once?