I’m considering trying out an immutable distro after using Tumbleweed for the last 6 years.

The two major options for me seem to be Fedora Kinoite or uBlue Aurora-dx

My understanding is that universal-blue is a downstream of Fedora Atomic

So, the points in favor of Kinoite is sticking closer to upstream, however it seems like I would need to layer quite a few packages. My understanding is that this is discouraged in an rpm-ostree setup, particularly due to update time and possible mismatches with RPMFusion

uBlue Aurora-dx seems to include a lot of the additional support I’d need - ROCm, distrobox, virt-manager, libratbag, media codecs, etc. however I’m unclear how mature the project is and whether it will be updated in a timely manner long term

I’m curious what the community thinks between the two as a viable option

  • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Hey! Thanks!

    I’ve installed Aurora to my new drive based off the comments here so far, and it’s been pretty smooth bringing my configs over :)

    Immutable is new to me, so I’m wondering how you manage host daemons and cli applications, such as mpd for music and password-store for password management

    Is the best practice to keep one Fedora <current release> distrobox with them?

    Also, are there any issues with upgrading a distrobox to a new major release over time?

    So far my mindset has been make sure I don’t layer anything, but maybe some things like mpd do make sense to layer?

    I also see brew as another option. Perhaps that’s the preferred way for those types of tools? However, it seems like the system upgrade script updates distrobox and not brew?

    Sorry for the rambling question - just trying to understand best practices with an immutable distro 😅

    • cakeofhonor@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      One thing you can check out is quadlet, which is podman containers running as systemd services. You just basically put the .container files in the right directory and sytemd will pick them up and run them for you. I have syncthing and zerotier running like this.

      I don’t really think you need to layer anything unless you’re doing virtualization, but I haven’t really looked into that yet.

      • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Thanks! That sounds like exactly what I’d want to run mpd. I’ll check it out

        For virtualization, I’m all good since I went with uBlue instead of Silverblue for now - the developer images come with lxc/lxd/qemu/libvirt :)