• Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    3 months ago

    I was talking to my dad about my job and how people don’t know how to use Linux. He said “Yeah, nobody uses that UNIX stuff anymore.”

    Then I pointed out that his phone and his computer both run flavors of UNIX, since he’s been using Apple products since I made him switch by not supporting his issues with Windows, and that most of the websites and apps he’s using are running Linux on the backend.

    • uis@lemm.ee
      21·
      3 months ago

      Well, he is correct. Linux is not UNIX. It is UNIX-like system. And Android is abomination.

          • candybrie@lemmy.world
            2·
            3 months ago

            I looked it up. macOS is still unix certified.

            BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

            What is and isn’t unix is kind of up to what definition you’re working with (pedigree, legally, practically).

    • tacofox@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 months ago

      Jim: “what’s your favorite district” Mike: “Android of course” Jim:

    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      1·
      3 months ago

      Thats like saying your favorite type of cheese is American, sure its technically cheese but its so processed and removed from cheese that its just not the same as mozzarella.

      • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 months ago

        I made grilled cheese for my father in law in India where it was not insignificantly difficult to find “American” bread and processed cheese. It’s comfort food that crosses borders and cultures.

        Edit: You United Statesians got that weird cheese thing right and I will die on that hill.

  • simple@lemm.ee
    2·
    3 months ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux-

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      That’s the problem, though: a lot of it isn’t GNU, specifically because GNU stuff is GPLv3 and would thus stop the smart TV and IoT device makers from Tivoizing everything all to Hell. Most of that stuff is running bastardized Linux, not GNU/Linux!

    • silkroadtraveler@lemmy.todayEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      A name is just a simple reference to a system composed of interrelated and essential OS components: Kernel, windowing system, networking tools, virtual memory, user interfaces, the list goes on…

      Yes GNU is an essential suite of tools but so is X (or Wayland) and many other unnamed yet critical subsystems.

      Now GPL licensing on the other hand, THAT is a foundational precept to FOSS that deserves sole credit back to a single project.

    • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      There are a number of Linux distributions that do not have a GNU user space, so no.

        • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Off the top of my head:

          • Android and its derivatives, and other distributions based on ToyBox (if any exist, I don’t know)
          • Alpine and other distributions based on BusyBox
          • Chimera
      • JATth@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 months ago

        The NT kernel in isolation is apparently quite “ok”, from what i have heard of it. It’s the spyware, malware, driver crap (“windows”) running on/using it which is unquestionably totally fucked and disgusting. If they were to FOSS the NT kernel, I could maybe support an such endeavor.

    • frezik@midwest.social
      1·
      3 months ago

      Wish they didn’t. DIY opnsense/pfsense boxes are much harder for finding compatible NICs because they’re on BSD. Conversely, used enterprise-level NICs often have better drivers on Linux than Windows.

  • unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org
    1·
    3 months ago

    I am constantly amused about how “next year” has been “the year of Linux on the desktop” for 20+ years. Meanwhile, Linux & BSD have pretty much completely taken over the whole world except the desktop in that same time.