• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    She spoke with them, but the article is suggesting she shouted down protesters without talking to them about their cause.

    Did you read the article? That’s not how they framed this situation at all. Here’s how they framed it:

    Harris first acknowledged the protesters by borrowing a strategy President Joe Biden used earlier this cycle when pro-Palestinian demonstrators routinely interrupted his events, affirming the protesters’ right to voice their opinions while trying to redirect attention to the remarks.

    “I’m here because we believe in democracy. Everyone’s voice matters,” she said. “But I am speaking now. I am speaking now.”

    Harris famously told then-Vice President Mike Pence “I’m speaking” in cross-talk at a vice presidential debate during the 2020 election cycle.

    As the protests continued, Harris’ tone grew more forceful.

    I think that’s pretty fair. And the article explicitly says she spoke with them about their cause, wtf are you smoking?

    Also, do you not find it odd that the big place this is being discussed is Elon Musk’s Nazi Twitter? Or is that not relevant?

    I’m not on twitter, but this article makes no reference to twitter. Maybe you’re just seeped in political news and are projecting your overall vibes onto this particular article. I’ll again recommend touching some grass.

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        3 months ago

        Not particularly, where else are you going to find a 50 second clip of an hour-long speech?

        It’s also being discussed here, but I suppose that’s inorganic since nobody here would be discussing something potentially negative about Harris unless a troll were to bring it up?

        Maybe you’re right - maybe only trolls discuss the negative aspects of our politics; real Americans ignore the uncomfortable parts.

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          Not particularly, where else are you going to find a 50 second clip of an hour-long speech?

          Youtube. Instagram. Bluesky. Reddit. Facebook. Lemmy. Mastodon.

          And if you don’t like those, there’s Dailymotion and Vimeo.

          I’m not sure why you’re not even aware of that.

          But the main thing is that R2O has an agenda. They posted article after article about why we shouldn’t vote for Biden and they’re doing it again about Harris. If you read their comments in the thread, they’re not even being especially secretive about it.

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            But the main thing is that R2O has an agenda. They posted article after article about why we shouldn’t vote for Biden and they’re doing it again about Harris. If you read their comments in the thread, they’re not even being especially secretive about it.

            He’s posted article after article pointing to real problems with the democratic platform, he’s not inventing anything that isn’t already there. If acknowledging those issues hurts democratic electoral chances, then maybe democrats should do something to address them.

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              Now that’s just a lie. Not only have they blatantly said their agenda was to get people to not vote for Biden (they were even temporarily banned for it), they are implicitly suggesting in this comment chain that people shouldn’t vote for Harris. That was the whole point of saying that things have to fall apart.

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                Lol, pot calling the kettle black? Isn’t this itself a fabrication? Saying things need to get worse for people to take action could also mean things in Gaza/Israel need to get worse before americans make it an important issue. He hasn’t said anything about “don’t vote for Harris”, and he was banned for saying he was creating opposition to Biden generally, not so that people didn’t vote. Being unhappy with your electoral choices is the bare minimum prerequisite before deciding you have to do something beyond simply voting. Pushing Harris to make the right policy decisions is an important part of activism.

                “He’s trying to get Trump elected” is just a straight up fabrication.