• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
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    Will use 4x as much electricity though, ugh.

    https://www.cleanenergyresourceteams.org/your-old-refrigerator-energy-hog

    Anyone know of any refrigerators today that are as durable as older ones and have today’s efficiencies, but without the smart features and other junk?

    Average refrigerator today still lasts 13 years though, and while they’re made cheaply they also are cheaper (at least as a portion percentage of the average paycheck).

    https://reviewed.usatoday.com/dishwashers/features/ask-the-experts-why-dont-new-home-appliances-last

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      Sub Zero, Thermador… High end refrigerators, just look at the price, we decided to forget the idea because of that.

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      I’ve heard that in the US fridges are generally different, with stuff like active fans and nonsense like that. Is that true?

      Because every fridge I’ve seen in Europe is mechanically extremely basic and I’ve literally never seen or even heard of one breaking. In my experience fridges are one of the only things that have remained phenomenally simple in design and extremely unlikely to break.

      If someone told me their fridge broke, I’d genuinely assume they were lying. That’s how reliable they are.

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        Well there are evaporator fans in modern refrigerators in the US. They serve an important role though helping with defrosting, improving cooling efficiency, and evenness of cooling throughout the fridge.

        https://refrigeratorguide.net/maximize-cooling-efficiency-best-refrigerator-evaporator/

        Usually only very small refrigerators are without them now.

        It is another point of failure though, but should be pretty easily repairable. I mean it’ll still be able to cool without the fan, but it’ll be running much more to try and compensate and keep things cool though.

        If you know the YouTube channel technology connections, here’s a fun video of him messing around with a fanless style refrigerator:

        https://youtube.com/watch?v=8PTjPzw9VhY

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        Every LG and Samsung major appliance I’ve had has broken within 5 years.

        Refrigerators, washing machines, and dryers.

        Prior, I only ever had 80s era American tank energy hogs. Switched back to American brands in the last few years, so too soon to tell if they’ll work out better…

        Here’s to hoping.

        Oh, and having dealt with LG warranty for both electronics and major appliances, I’ll never buy another LG product that isn’t a monitor.

        LG monitors are the only higher end LG product’s I’ve owned that have survived well past the warranty date.

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          I think Samsung is generally considered trash now. I certainly will never buy any of their “smart” objects either, especially not an ad-ridden TV.

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            I can confirm Samsung appliances are complete trash. Every single one I’ve owned has either died or had a non-replaceable part fail within a couple years. We had a Samsung fridge at one point and one of the door switches failed. No big deal right, easy to replace? No, apparently Samsung used some kind of custom switch instead of the bog standard cherry contact switch that basically everything and everyone has used for decades, and it’s no longer being manufactured.

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            My dad bought me a ridiculously expensive (like $400) Samsung vacuum that I loved. It was strong, it came apart in really cool ways to make it versatile, etc.

            It failed in less than a year.

            The $60 Walmart special Bissell that I went and bought to replace it lasted for 8.5 years before the motor burned out (I screwed up and it got too much pet hair in it). I bought the same one again and it’s going on 5+ years with no issues.

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              Samsung certainly seem very aware of return window timing. 8.5 years is much better!

              I wish some of this stuff was more standardized. In an ideal world one should be able to just replace a motor and keep on going. (Like without needing to learn any wiring and so on.)

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        After some decades they just become so incredibly gross no one without a hazmat suit would try cleaning it again, so they’re replaced.

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      We have a refrigerator from the '80s that runs like a champ.

      Solved the energy problem by putting solar panels on the roof.

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      Buy a chest freezer and convert it

      Or buy a fancier chest freezer that can swap to a fridge with a button press

      Got mine for Xmas 2 years ago, cost like 800 bucks? Bigger than a normal fridge, uses $2.78/month in electricity in freezer mode here in expensive electricity land

      Downside: you have to dig for you shit. Upside: in the summer, good