• Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    I’m proud to vote third party because I believe in standing by my principles, without fear of what may or may not happen in the election outcome.

    Voting should be about advocating for the future we want, not settling for what feels safe or easy.

    Just because the analogy tries to guilt me into conformity doesn’t mean I should abandon my values—real change comes from voting with conviction, not fear.

    To be a responsible member of a democratic society, it is important to consider, appreciate and acknowledge the choices of our votes.

    Which is exactly why I am voting for who I want to. As I respect your right to vote for who you want to.

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      So that principle is “I won’t be affected so screw everyone else who will be!” ?

      Voting should be about advocating for the future we want

      And the future your preferences reveal is one governed by a trump administration.

      Just because the analogy tries to guilt me into conformity doesn’t mean I should abandon my values

      Again, please explain the difference between your position and the analogy. If you would continue to eat the ice cream because the ice cream would make you feel good and you’re not that child or that child’s parents, just say so. Empathy isn’t something with which everyone is blessed and while that’s not ideal, it’s life.

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        So that principle is “I won’t be affected so screw everyone else who will be!” ?

        And how will “everyone else” be screwed? You all said that last time he was president. World didn’t end then. Won’t end this time. Regardless of who wins.

        And the future your preferences reveal is one governed by a trump administration.

        If I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d vote for Trump. Like almost half the country is going to do.

        Again, please explain the difference between your position and the analogy.

        The analogy oversimplifies the situation and unfairly equates voting with neglecting a child in danger. My vote is about advocating for systemic change and challenging a broken system, not about disregarding the consequences, and it’s possible to care deeply about the future while still voting according to my principles.

        Again, I get to vote for who I want. Just like you do. Our rights are the same. Me and many of my friends are voting Green Party. Accept it, friend.

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      2 months ago

      Voting should be about advocating for the future we want, not settling for what feels safe or easy.

      And the future that you want is one where trump wins the presidency. Otherwise you would act differently.

      Now, if a trump presidency won’t affect you that much, makes sense. I get that. I personally won’t be harmed. But, I know others will be. So this is important.

      Still waiting for an explanation of why the analogy doesn’t hold up rather than just “I DON’T LIKE IT!”

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        And the future that you want is one where trump wins the presidency. Otherwise you would act differently.

        No, if I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d vote for Trump.

        But I’m not voting for Trump.

        I’m also not voting for your candidate. I don’t care how mad you get, how bullying you get, how much you call me a Trumper or a russian, or a troll or spin analogies, etc.

        I’m not voting for your candidate. I’ve explained why. You don’t like that. Ok, well that’s fine.

        This conversation is done. I’ve explained my viewpoints several times. You just don’t like it. Then you turn around and say that I am acting like “I JUST DON’T LIKE IT!”

        Nothing you have said has changed my mind.

        Me, and many of my friends, are not voting for Harris. Accept it. Move on. You haven’t changed my mind at all.

        In fact, speaking with you has made me more determined than ever to not vote for Harris. So good job, friend!

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          It’s a revealed preference. And your preference is to help trump, which is absolutely your right. As is enjoying ice cream while a child runs into traffic.

          I haven’t bullied you, called a stooge, russian, troll or anything of the sort. I have called your simplistic and nonsense opinion childish which seems appropriate.

          I haven’t “spun” an analogy (how would one even do that?) Though you seem to realize how accurate it is as you’ve refused to articulate why it doesn’t apply other than that it highlights the moral abdication of your choices.

          The folks who fought for democracy probably wanted even more progressive candidates but, thank heavens they, unlike you, realized the importance and consequence of their votes.

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              2 months ago

              And after all that, I am still voting for Jill Stein donald trump. :)

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                Nah, if I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d just vote for Trump. I’m actually voting for Jill Stein.

                And you totally respect and support my right to vote for who I want, just like I support and respect your rights to vote for who you want, right? Right?

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      As if anyone believes for even a moment that this cat is actually going to vote for Jill Stein and not Trump. lol