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    Sooooo the stakes for women, LGBTQ+ and migrants actually living in the USA (you know, the country the elections are for) aren’t high enough but you draw the line at foreign policies and you’ll push people to not vote and therefore open the door to the Republicans (who will support that genocide even more than the Democrats) by insisting that Harris bad?

    And yes, you guys, all the people who kept saying you wouldn’t vote because of Biden’s stance on Israel, ignoring all other issues because somehow the death the Republicans will cause in North America if they win count for nothing but the deaths Israel are causing in Palestine count for everything. You’re just part of the Russian division machine to try and get the Republicans in power.

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      You will find no bigger critic of Republican fascism than me. That doesn’t give Harris a pass for terrible policy, nor from the political consequences of them.

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        “you will find no bigger critic of the Republicans than me” they said while increasing the odds that they would win the elections

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          Honestly, how else do you suggest people exert influence over leadership in a democracy? The ‘campaign’ is an inconvenient time to debate these issues. Then, it will be ‘too early’ in her administration to debate these issues (why don’t we just give her a chance after-all!). Then it will be, ‘the electorate spoke when they voted her in. If you didn’t want this, why did you vote for her?’ Then it will be campaign time again.

          If her position is an existential threat to her electability, then she is making a huge political mistake by taking this stance and you should call her out for endangering American democracy. If it isn’t, what are you complaining about?

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            “How else can people influence a government of the people by the people?”

            You realize that one of the potential future vice President is an ex school teacher that decided to become a volunteer for a presidential candidate and that started his political involvement? Hell, even today he’s worth less than the average for people his age so don’t come and tell me you need to be rich to do it.

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              Not sure if you are responding to a different comment because this is confusing and not really addressing the point I made. Are you suggesting that every single constituent who has an opinion should run for office?

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                No, I’m saying you’ve got the power to change things if you want but if you can’t be bothered to get involved then the least you can do is vote for the best option you’ve got and don’t try and discourage people from voting because all you’re doing is helping the worst option.

                Don’t make your involvement in politics an involvement against democracy.

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                  Oh. Advocating for a policy and calling out a candidate for their position is anti democratic. Got it.

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                    Trying to bait people into not voting for the best of both world because you disagree with one policy and you make the whole election about it while ignoring that the alternative is worse even on that policy is anti democratic.