• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I’m going to vote Harris in Nov, but I think the perception by many on the left (including me) is that when Harris wins they won’t go “good thing the left/progressive faction helped us win despite not being in lockstep with our policies because they understand how detrimental a Trump presidency will be” - they will instead go “Look at this clear mandate delivered at the ballot box. Harris’ policies are overwhelmingly popular, there is no need to push for a more progressive platform.”

    And frankly, that’s exactly what I think will happen, so I’m voting Harris, but I’m doing so knowing that I’ll die of old age before there’s someone like Bernie with any chance of winning again. (and that person will probably get fucked by corporatist/centrist Dems just like Bernie did anyhow)

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      2 months ago

      Again, what was the thanks that Obama got for the ACA? He lost for the next 6 years. Fucking thanks huh.

      What was Biden’s thanks for all his work? Lost the house. Fucking thanks huh.

      That’s why they need consistent victories. Not 2 years every 16 fucking years.

      Frankly, they do left things in spite of the left never showing up. And they pay for it every time.

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        2 months ago

        I can only cast my own vote, that’s how this whole thing works. Not sure how responsible I feel for whatever you are trying to smear on me.

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          2 months ago

          I responded to your “perception”. That was quite the rant and rave that yes demands a response.

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              2 months ago

              It’s funny that you think that wasn’t a rant you went on. It was quite an impressive one. Ciao.

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        2 months ago

        Why are you utilizing collective guilt in your argument?

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          2 months ago

          If that’s what you want to call what happened, that’s you. This is what happened.

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            2 months ago

            You’re blaming an individual for the actions of a group that they are not a part of and did not participate in. That’s collective guilt

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              No I’m not blaming the individual, I’m saying the group. The group that doesn’t show up. Like where in that message did I specifically say him the specific individual user. And I’m saying what literally happened, you’re trying to change this to guilt of some kind or other.

              I seem to have a lot of messages from you that focus on frankly weird and/or incorrect pedantry. I’m out.

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                2 months ago

                and/or

                “And/or” is grammatically incorrect. It should be “or” because “or” does not preclude the possibility of both being present