• HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    However, we are NOT MAGA […] we want what’s best for everyone in this country, including those on the Right.

    Are you sure? Because, by the way, people in this thread have called me dipship, shithead, idiot, moron, puppet, troll, and told me to fuck off multiple times, invariably with a slew of upvotes.

    And why? Because I said I don’t think Gabbard is a Russian asset? They’re making excuses for supporting genocide, but I’m the one who deserves abuse?

    And you want me to believe that Democrats aren’t like MAGA? It sure looks like MAGA to me, and you’re telling me to not believe my own eyes. (Maybe easy for you when you’re not the one being abused for the crime of disagreeing with people.)

    Maybe the Democrats have become MAGA and you just don’t want to notice it.

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      No, we’re not like MAGA. I can’t speak for everyone in this case, I am sure there are some who will take it too far. That’s part of the nature of divisiveness. That said, let me make a list of what those on the left do agree on:

      1. Universal healthcare
      2. Positive, even progressive, policies and direction
      3. Federal support of the 4-day work week
      4. Stronger emphasis and follow-thru on climate change
      5. Ending the war in Ukraine (not to the disadvantage of the Ukrainians or advantage of Putin) and the situation in Gaza
      6. Slashing of the military budget (goes alongside universal healthcare)
      7. Liveable wages and reasonable new childcare leave for any parent
      8. Affordable education
      9. Affordable life-saving drugs/life-changing drugs such as anti-depression meds AND universal acceptance of therapy
      10. Businesses, owners, CEOs, and the billionaire class being held accountable
      11. Trump. Prison. NOW
      12. Increase on 1% taxes
      13. Women’s reproductive rights
      14. Minority rights
      15. Gerrymandering limitations or outright ban
      16. Burning down the electoral college
      17. More than two viable political parties

      I’m sure some stuff is missing. Ya’ll have to forgive me, I did my best off top of my head.

      Somewhat more controversial is how some of us are tired of averting our eyes and turning our gazes away. Moreover, the Republicans play dirty. They fling shit, set fire to conversations, attempt to hide in plain sight in forums claiming to be someone else, will break laws if it means hurting someone they don’t like, and they may even attempt to overthrow a country. Let me just grab the citation on that last one.

      We are not like MAGA. We are sick of the shit. I was one of the people who pushed for us to stop being so damned tolerant BECAUSE tolerance is a BIG reason why we’re where we are now. We believe in what’s on that list for the benefit of all. Republicans fight against it for the benefit of the few, and more importantly the injuring of those they do not like.

      So when you call us blueMAGA. When you claim we are no better. Yeah, Homerian, we tell you to suck it, because it’s not true.

      Btw, if Harris-Walz turned and started spouting MAGA bs, we’d turn on them in a heartbeat. We do not want a Trump or a MAGA in sheep’s clothing.

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      By the way, the Democrats didn’t become this way overnight. They were steered this way by their leadership.

      The party in general follows the direction of the leaders. The people here are calling Gabbard a Russian agent because Hillary Clinton did that in 2016. The people here are okay with supporting Israel’s genocide because Biden said he supports Israel.

      I will be watching over the next two months to see if Harris and Walz can steer the party back to sanity, but so far it’s not looking good.