• LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Right, Israel just needs a bit more lebensraum in the east / the west bank.

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      2 months ago

      Why are you changing the topic? Yes, Israel using the situation to expand into palestinian territory is also despicable. But that doesn’t magically make military, militia or terrorist attacks against Israel an act of defense.

      If you want to condemn Israel’s actions then the bare minimal requirement is not being even worse. At which countries openly supporting terrorists and calling for the destruction of a neighbouring country fail by definition.

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        Worse? We have numbers for the respective body counts. They probably killed more Palestinian children in the last 8 months alone than Israeli victims in the entire history of terrorism against Israel.

        Israel had decades of superior military power to culturally genocide re-educate Palestinians and create peace. Instead they chose fascism, oppression, and violence against their neighbors.

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          2 months ago

          And again you changed the topic and now it’s about body count and not who actually attacked the other and who is defending themselves.

          If you need to redefine a problem every single time you try to make a point either your answer is simplified bullshit or you start with your conclusion and then adapt everything else to support it.

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            2 months ago

            not who actually attacked the other and who is defending themselves.

            I will give you a hint, the Israelis siezed lands by force as part of the formation of Israel, expelling or killing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

            Everything following that action has been defence by the regional populace.

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              2 months ago

              So you are indeed denying Israel the right to defend themselves or even exist… yet you are trying to argue as if your were actually reasonable and weren’t advocating for just another genocide.

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                Are you saying seizing other people’s lands, and expelling them, gives you the right to exist there? The zionists entered a place that was decolonizing from the British, and began buying land, that was already occupied, from the British, then began expanding, refusing to hire, or do business with, anyone who wasn’t jewish, and expelling the people originally there. You claim that imperialist expansionism is bad, but the moment someone points out that this behavior is the root of this conflict, you jump to the side of the colonizers. You can’t have it both ways. Either you are fine with colonial expansionism, or you agree that people being colonized can route the colonizers.