• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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        Yeah

        I could maybe see it, if all you know otherwise is C++, and your experience with other languages is trying to make python / go / node / whatever work well on a Windows machine without well-working tooling, and then you finally try C# and it’s like oh shit, it’s not filling up my mouth with feces every time I want to iterate over a dictionary or need memory management, this is a big improvement, I like it

        But, VSCode has good support for those other languages now anyway

        And, the bigger question, who the fuck are all these people upvoting this

        Like what do you guys do all day? Or is this some subtle super sophisticated joke I am not understanding, or do you just like the man’s chin? Or do you just not program and you upvote programming things out of general excitement about the idea of doing programming?

        Who in the fuck is this excited about C# of all the things in the world to get excited about?

        I’m just baffled in general by it

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            Yeah. That’s what I was saying - it is clearly superior to C++ and probably to Java but those are like the worst two languages in the meta. It’s like hey this is a clear improvement over what we were doing 40 years ago that’s acknowledged by everyone has aged poorly.

            Idk man, I’m not trying to be bigoted about it just saying my experience is more pleasant with a few other languages available outside of that grouping.

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              It very much depends on what you’re trying to do. C# is pretty great for developing APIs, especially in an enterprise environment involving a lot of business logic. I don’t have much of an opinion on Django as I haven’t spent enough time looking into it, but I have looked at enough Node.js code to know I don’t prefer it for most of the projects I’ve been involved in.
              My Python experience is largely based in working with things like Raspberry Pis, and relatively simple jobs where Python made the job pretty easy. I don’t know enough experience with larger Python projects to have a feel for what good architecture in a complex application looks like.
              With C#, I can go into a large application using good practices and quickly navigate the code and be productive.

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                APIs

                enterprise environment

                business logic

                Must be why all those tech focused companies, Google and Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, IDK, whatever list you want to put together, rely so heavily on C# for all their core enterprise API functionality. (I actually found a list. I’m not saying that it’s automatically that something being popular means it’s good, but I think if C# had inherent advantages over other more modern solutions then it would be somewhat more heavily represented in top-tier production software systems.)

                As far as I can tell, C# doesn’t really have any real advantages over other more modern environments aside from a certain cachet of “enterprise” in some sectors which is often convincing to non-technical people, which I assume is what you’re trying to invoke here. I think it’s missing some strong advantages in those environments that something like Go would provide.

                I have looked at enough Node.js code to know I don’t prefer it for most of the projects I’ve been involved in

                100% agree, I actually actively don’t like Node for a few different reasons. I mentioned C# not having many advantages in my opinion; Node has some active disadvantages.

                With C#, I can go into a large application using good practices and quickly navigate the code and be productive.

                I mean I think mostly what you’re saying here is that you’re familiar with it, and it’s suitable for large systems. Which, sure, I get that and it makes sense, but it’s also not the only production language that someone can get familiar with, and at this point I think it’s missing some important features as compared with some of its peers (easy concurrency handling, good portability, and massive availability of libraries being some I could pick out).

                Like I say I’m not trying to tell you you’re wrong for using it if you’re happy with how it solves your problems and the codebases you can create in it. I’m just saying that may have less to do with its technical features as compared with other languages and more to do with some other factors instead.

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                  C# isn’t really the go-to for high scale distributed systems. But it’s extremely easy for a small team of developers to set up a really solid service really quickly. I don’t have experience with Go so I can’t really compare, but I find ASP.NET Core very pleasant to work with, and I also appreciate the suitability of C# and .NET libraries for both backend and frontend work.

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          I’m assuming since this is greentext a lot of people seeing this don’t work with code every day. I definitely don’t work with it every day, only reason I know .NET is a fistful of fireants is from the few programs I have made for my company.

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            Makes me wonder what kind of programs you make? Work with C# everyday, never really run into problems unless you’re working with the deeper Windows layers.

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              I literally said I don’t work with it every day. I program the odd times every few months my company needs something automated now

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                So your problem with C# is that you don’t have the skill to use it? Unsure how else to interpret it?

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                  Actually I find C# to be quite nice. Its what I’m most familiar with and I’ve used it on my personal time to make some shitty games. Dont know what your issue is but you aren’t C# and dont need to take this personally.

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      5 months ago

      If C# is so good, where is the C# Lemmy/Mbin/Sublinks/Piefed alternative everyone has been waiting for?