• ALQ@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Which is why we can’t give in to defeatism and it’s dangerous to frame discussion with the notion that Harris is “on track to […] lose.” It’s not over until the election is over.

    Nothing is guaranteed in this election. Talk of Harris as though she’s definitely going to win or definitely going to lose only serves to depress voter turnout because people think their votes aren’t necessary.

    Vote like your rights depend on it; encourage everyone you know to do the same.

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      19 hours ago

      is why we can’t give in to defeatism

      No, we can’t engage in self delusion.

      and it’s dangerous to frame discussion with the notion that Harris is “on track to […] lose.”

      No, its dangerous to stand in denial of the evidence. Hopes not going to get you there. The evidence we have right now suggest we might not even have to worry about SC fuckery.

      The ONLY thing that can be done is to stop with this trite, delusional thinking, and to stop advocating for this candidate blindly. That kind of toxic blindness is why the candidate is suffering. Accepting less from your candidate means they don’t do as well on election day. We need to demand better from her because if she doesn’t do better, she wont win.

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        28 minutes ago

        There are stories written about people that fight for what’s right and win.

        There are also stories about people that fight for what’s right and lose.

        Nobody ever writes anything about those that give up, regardless of the outcome. Gone and forgotten… as they should be because they contributed nothing.

        I’d rather be either of the first two options than the third. It’s a Pascal’s wager kind of thing… defeatism isn’t actually smart, because it makes you the loser in every outcome.

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            18 hours ago

            Your comment just makes no sense. I can’t even say I disagree with you because you have no point — there’s no propositional content with which anyone can agree or disagree.

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                  5 hours ago

                  I get it. You’re a toxic child who can’t argue something in its merits. First it’s not an argument. Then the opponent must be a bot. But actually, you just don’t have the ability to respond.