I’ve been unmotivated in the past but i think it’s time to sort out an alternative.

  • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ@lemmy.ml
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    already ditched them most of them and moved to self hosting movies, TV shows and music. I’m still paying for music but the latest drama of losing tons of classics on YouTube music due to SESAC licensing has me rethinking what I’m even paying for.

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    Streaming services have a catastrophic problem they didn’t see coming.

    As they massively expanded the viewing market, they also gave very accurate viewing metrics compared to broadcast TV.

    Also, the many, MANY offerings cut the viewing pie into smaller pieces.

    And this is the expectation, mostly because while you might stay with a super hit like GoT, they’re super expensive, and huge risks if they don’t take off (see acolyte). Cost sensitive people are likely to subscribe for the season then cancel, or just subscribe the month the season finishes.

    The alternative is to try to hook you on a bunch of shows, which means having a ton of them and hoping they nail your niche. People are less willing to do this, but it works if you have more disposable income, or value streaming more.

    In any case, they can’t afford all the shows they have to put on, it’s all or nothing now, before they might watch lost on ABC one night, then CBS walker Texas ranger might let the kid fall on the ground the next, but now you have to keep them entertained most days, that’s a shit-ton of content. HBO has it worse, they’re losing their old cable revenue, and their productions are stupid expensive, and they’re one of the winners. Disney has it even worse because disney+ cannibalizes both their cinema sales and they have to put up their crown jewels, star wars and the mcu, all on the same service, devaluing both. Fortunately focusing on kids programming helps because parents basically have to have Disney+ just as a matter of course.

    This barely worked on broadcast because the different channels could share the load and cut the ad pie into larger pieces,

    If they could count on must-watch blockbusters (ie GoT, which really hurt them when they screwed the landing and killed rewatchability), they could pull it off, but that’s so risky, it’s betting everything on one spin of the roulette wheel.

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      I liked reading your response. Wish I had a meaningful response other than there is no way I’m going to feel bad for media companies. If they’ve painted themselves in a corner I’m sure it was greed that got them there.

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      But they haven’t added unskippable unavoidable ads yet.

      When/if they do, that’ll tell a story.

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    Because for every one person like you and me with zero ad tolerance, there’s hundreds, thousands of plebs who can’t be bothered to drop the service. It’s the inverse of the whale (re. microtransactions) problem.

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      I know a few people that actually claim to like watching ads. They have made consumerism part of their identity and they are proud of it.

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    What alternative? Every other service who does the same shit? Or even worse, setup jellyfin with sonarr server to completely automate everything and watch everything for absolutely free and continue to do so forever?? The shit some of these pirates do is disgusting.

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      Or even worse, setup jellyfin with sonarr server to completely automate everything and watch everything for absolutely free and continue to do so forever??

      Oh no?..

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        Heard Plex has gone downhill quite a bit. Any important features you are looking for in jellyfin? Never tried or checked Plex myself so don’t know much about it.

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    Remember Netflix’s password sharing ban outrage? It didn’t work, they gained more subscribers. People stay because they don’t know how to sail the high seas or are too lazy to do it.

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    This is just my opinion, but when Google(and… I don’t know, “them?”) started cracking down on the “letswatch” and 123movie sites, streaming was in a good place, so people happily jumped over. Now, in the time between that and the state of things now, some people lost their patience and skill with looking up a movie. Both my mom and grandma were fine with the 123movies and what not. The sites started to go down when Netflix was still alright, so it wasn’t a big deal. Spend a couple dollars, get all the stuff you want and be sure it’s the best quality, and no malware? Fantastic.

    By the time it became this state of affairs, my mom just couldn’t wrap her head around it. I tried to explain some sites are still there, you just may need to search duckduckgo (which she hates for some reason). She never understood torrenting even though we’ve gone over it multiple times. I’ve always liked anime or some shit that was not going to be on Netflix, so I kept using those “skills” and kept up with the changes. Moving to torrenting, a VPN, file converters, learning how to apply subtitles, one by one, over years, it’s not a big deal. You just learn as you do. Having to come back to that after how much has changed ostracized a lot of people.

    The people who aren’t affected by them were never their main focus. They wanted the people who weren’t tech savvy, lazy even. They can’t figure out a torrent, or how to even find it in the first place. They won’t know what to search for to protect themselves and will likely get scared by the first copyright notice. They’re hoping that the majority of their customer base will be like that and feel “trapped.”

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      Do your own ironing! It’s quite easy. Heat the iron to the proper temperature. Not too hot. Use steam liberally. Use an ironing board and a sleave attachment. Turn your garment around so you can reach everywhere. Some creases are meant to be there. Make sure they are straight before ironing them.

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    Bcs they act as a monopoly in regards to alternatives.

    They only slightly intend to compete against each other but pretend nothing else exist (pirates, or people just shifting towards other forms of entertainment).

    And they are ofc in cahoots in the sense that their common goal is to normalise paying several hundred moneys per month for streaming services and have the streaming service full of ads regardless.
    So in that sense they will not compete but back each other up.

    Like land owners/landlords, their main goals are completely aligned.

    And that is how ‘market disruptions’ actually work - its not to offer a new service to the end user (like Uber-ish services are the same as taxi services from the perspective of users), it’s to undercut the existing regime with lower prices whilst living on capital given because of the promise that once the old regime is gone they can crank up the prices & actually profitable (we are actually just at this stage right now - watch how much monthly fees are gonna go up in just a few years).

    Goal/end stage:
    Users are gonna be glued to their ad-ridden TVs just the same as boomers but far better monetised (watching TV is gonna be expensive).

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    Hulu is treating me with impunity when I reported errors with their apps. Hulu, an eminently cancelable service that a lot of people never paid for in the first place.

    Sail the seven seas, friends. These people deserve despondency.

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      Everyone here forgets cable was under threat of piracy until streaming came along. They think the US has cracked down but pirates have gotten more advanced. I just can’t get over these streaming services not realizing if you take away the only safe port then all that is left is piracy.

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    Wife and I started watching the boys on prime. That’s when I realized Amazon is putting ads in the stream.

    I just ended up downloading all the seasons in an hour and it’s been no ads on Kodi since.

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    I’ve ditched all of them except the Disney/Hulu bundle, and that’s only because Amex gives me back $7 a month of the cost.

    Amazon Prime used to be okay as a Prime customer, but now you can’t watch a 24 minute show without seeing like five ads. I tried to watch an episode of Invincible and there were two ads before the show even started, two in the middle of the show, and one at the end. It’s freaking insane.

    I barely even watch video these days, I get way more mileage out of a good music service like Qobuz or Tidal.

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    Keep in mind that these people don’t rationalize. They only see numbers. They use smart people to give them a watered down explanation on how it’s possible to raise the numbers even more. If you leave but the people that stay start making the numbers go even higher, they don’t give a fuck.

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    A: they’re betting most people will accept it, and they’re right. The same thing happened in the early 80s when cable television advertised themselves as the pay-for-ad-free service, then started sneaking ads in. People complained, sure, but we all saw the outcome. They got away with it.

    B: Greed, capitalism, and fuck you.

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      A: they’re betting most people will accept it, and they’re right.

      Yes. Remember when Netflix put a stop to password sharing and the internet went aflame with people declaring that Netflix had shot itself in the foot? Netflix subscriber counts went up.

      The average person will put up with so much more of this nonsense than techie people will.

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        It’s why I highly recommend Fmovies, sudo-lol, and others. The barrier to entry is literally a browser and ublock origin and you can watch just about anything.

        You can send someone a link to an episode and they can watch it. No sign ups, no ads (with ad block), and pretty decent service. No explaining what a torrent is. No VPN (though I recommend it of course).

        Just pure content.

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      i haven’t had cable, or even a tv, in many years. stayed at a hotel the other day and flicked on the tv because the internet was out (helene), and was flabbergasted that for every 2 minutes of programming, there was at least 5 minutes of the same commercials over and over. people fucking watch this shit? on purpose?

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        When my wife and I stay at a hotel we watch cable and put on like QVC shopping channels.

        It’s fun to overreact and be like “this is 100 genuine silver painted lead.” Some of the channels will have like changing infographics that flash and explode every second as the price keeps dropping so we make wooshing sounds as it keeps falling to a new low.

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      Cable television never advertised that. Cable TV started as a “community antenna” system that served people in valleys with existing off-the-air broadcast channels (which had ads); the existence of those systems created a market for satellite-fed channels like HBO (which was always a separate subscription and ad-free) and TBS/CNN (which always carried ads). Other than the premium channels like HBO/Showtime/Cinemax, cable channels have had ads from the beginning.

      Once the small cable systems and the media publishers both got consolidated, we started seeing content licensing deals and higher costs to the subscriber to pay for it - but the channels (MTV, Nickelodeon, etc) always carried ads.

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        It definitely did. I remember it vividly (I was alive back then). And I’m talking about the premium services, specifically (e: which was the point of my comparison: the premium paid services back then advertised no-ad service, then included ads, just like the premium streaming services are doing today).

        Here’s an article from the NYT in 1981 on the topic:

        WILL CABLE TV BE INVADED BY COMMERCIALS?

        e: a quote:

        Indeed, even pay television, once assumed to be secure from commercial interests, is attracting some attention as a potential vehicle for advertising. Admittedly, such leading pay cable services as Home Box Office and Showtime, whose programming consists primarily of theatrically released films, staunchly maintain that they will never accept advertising.

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          Literally the first sentence of that article:

          Although cable television was never conceived of as television without commercial interruption, there has been a widespread impression - among the public, at least -that cable would be supported largely by viewers’ monthly subscription fees.

          The premium services mentioned in your quote (HBO, Showtime) also still do not run ads even today.

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        Yes and no. Networks had ads but cable began inserting their own ads in addition to the network ads. When I ran a company I did large media buys with cable companies. I would buy ads from the regional cable company which would air in between the national ads of Comedy Central, Discovery, etc.