I wonder what “Irish American Zionist” Joe Biden thinks of this?

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      Let’s hope “Mama U.S.” flips the script immediately upon inauguration. I have heard she does not agree with Biden’s position on this at all, but needs to play along for appearances and for that critical AIPAC money.

      That AIPAC money is only critical in election season, which ends soon. I’ll cross my fingers, but I won’t hold my breath.

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        Kamala? The one promising to make the US the most lethal armed forces in the world? She’s going to rein in Israel?

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        That’s literally cope 101. She has shown on multiple occasions that she doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians. She is as pro genocide as Biden is.

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        AIPAC has been messing in democratic primaires to make sure nobody critical of Israel is left in Congress. Even if electeds aren’t actual Zionist believers, they’ll go along to keep their jobs.

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        Unfortunately even if she wins and wanted to restrain Israel, AIPAC money could still be spent against Democrats in the midterms.

        Support for Israel is going to have to become much more unpopular with voters before we see real action from politicians.

        This article describes how Israel’s favorability has gone down globally but in the US it had only taken a very small hit last year. As the genocide as progressed and the war widened, maybe that favorability has taken more of a hit.

        Time Israel’s Favorability

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      And no matter which candidate you get, they’ll stay the same.

      So what does that mean and what does the American do about it? Because we are fractured lazy and overworked and many of us are got by fake news because an abusive system abused us and then neglected us now we’re all shitheads

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        Buy a gun, join a lefty militia, train up, then protest with your guns in large groups. If that method can convince Republicans to vote in favor of gun control to stop black people from having agency, it can work with anything you want to be changed as well.

        People always respond to threats of violence, with fear or with retaliation.

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          If you raise any force of violence enough then government will come down on you regardless of who you are from Waco to MOVE. A government just has a monopoly on violence and the US has the monopoly of violence in the world

          I’m not saying give up but the idea of the armed overthrow is not the best idea. Especially at this stage in the issue

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            I think hundreds of thousands or even millions of citizens engaging in armed protest would be impossible to address the way the Koresh or Ruby Ridge scenarios were handled.

            Their response would need to be smart and nuanced and would need to address core issues to really make it stop.

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              I didn’t say overthrow, I said protest.

              Where did you get the idea that armed protests always result in that?

              Armed protests simply prevents cops and authorities to quell your voice. Then you can have a seat at their table and eat their lunch, so to speak.