I’ve just been reading about how in the future, AI will allow us to speak with animals, and people will be able to communicate telepathically and live in their own VR worlds. (etc., etc.)

Man, this isn’t a world I want to live in. I’m so tired of the constant paradigm shifting that you have to put your brain through with each innovation. I wish technology just stayed frozen in the 1980s – there would be so much less uncertainty in my life and I could just focus on being a human.

Innovation keeps being forced on you and I just feel tired. >!And I’m only just in my 20s!< Is this ok? Is this valid? When resisting it is a loser’s game…

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    My issue with technological progress is that at this point most of it seems like it is no longer of benefit to the average person. Rather it is more about ways for corporations and governments to control us or extract more (e.g. money, data) from us. Most consumer tech is trending towards enshittification.

    The exception to this is medical advancements.

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    Stop doomscrolling.

    For what you are writing, you are just getting angry at things you read not at things you live.

    Revise which sources are you reading. If they made you unhappy, it is worth keep reading them? Most of those things won’t happen anyway or if happen you could easily avoid. I don’t feel the need to have an “smartwatch” so I just don’t have one, for instance.

    Find some sources that make you happy, and you’ll find an improvement. Some people seems to only write things with the goal of making you feel miserable.

    I’m just happy following my tech news about open source development and space exploration.

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      I agree with this. It sounds like OP is more bothered by “having this tech forced” on him than anything, but tech is inert, it is people that would make him feel like that.

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    Most of the tech in my house is at a minimum 3 years old. It all still works just fine, I don’t need new tech.

    My phone? 3 years old.

    My laptop? Probably 6 years old.

    My television? At least 13 years old. HD too. Doesn’t even have the smart TV features that are usually way too slow anyway.

    My fridge? Probably older than my sister.

    My other computer? As old as the telly. I might need to go fix it since it basically stopped working, and maybe upgrade some components, at least it’s future-proof for as long as it runs a currently up to date supported operating system. Hey, I might put Arch on that, btw.

    My microwave? Duh, my whole life, I’ve only had three. And the latest one is 9 years old.

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    I am now at the point where I think there are two things happening.

    • Actual technological progress.
    • Marketing bullshit pushed by dazzlers.

    Examples for the first one would be new battery tech for electric vehicles, new ways to harvest renewable energy, new tools that allow to make software more stable,… Examples for the second would be NTFs, Crypto-Currencies, “AI”, e-Fuels,…

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      Trust me, I remember seeing an “AI powered” rice cooker. It was just Tefal rebranding their Fuzzy Logic technology. DankPods even made a video on that exact rice cooker.

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    In Future Shock,

    Alvin Toffler argued that society is undergoing an enormous structural change, a revolution from an industrial society to a “super-industrial society”. This change, he states, overwhelms people. He argues that the accelerated rate of technological and social change leaves people disconnected and suffering from “shattering stress and disorientation”—future shocked. -from WP

    This was published in 1970

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      The technology we create takes the form of the incentives that drive its’ creation. If we create technology for the exploitation of others we shouldn’t be surprised that people use it for the exploitation of others.

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    Sounds like maybe a bit of depression could be hiding behind your anxiety about tech (if so, talk to a professional). I agree with some other takes that getting offline can be helpful. I got offline (as much as I could) for two weeks and it did a good amount to improve my mental health.

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    I fully agree. As a 43 year old, who used to be an “early adopter” I’ve found that I don’t fucking need it. I’m fine with retro games. I’m fine with talking on the phone instead of video conferences. I don’t need “social media”.

    On the other hand, I really like that my car doesn’t pollute. I really like that I can power my house from the sunlight that normally just hits my roof and is absorbed. I really like that I can work from home.

    There are tradeoffs. For me, what works, is just not giving a fuck. But in like, a content/nice way, instead of a nihilistic/depressed way. If you know what I mean?

    But being a Luddite does have its appeal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

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      I guess that makes sense. Also, what sets the solar panels aside is that they don’t intrude into your modus operandi, like eg. always-on employer expectations (possible thanks to the internet) might.

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      I’m fine with talking on the phone instead of video conferences.

      You will be surprised how many young people prefer voice-only over video. And how many people hate voice messages.

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        We all reach that point in life. I kind of admire and also pity those who don’t.

        Like, the Richard Bransons who are skydiving and water skiing with supermodels at 65 are just nuts. The Leo Laporte’s who stay on top of every little detailed change to every piece of tech are nuts. It’s cool that they have that enthusiasm, I guess. But it’s just not that important to me anymore.

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          We may have some differences, while close to the same age, I am extremely outdoors and active, constantly building something tech (not bleeding edge) or non-tech, and completely fill my time or I get ansy. So in that way I’m more like the Branson’s but overall my mentality towards “not caring” matches yours to a tee.

          The skill of being able to identify what’s important in the moment and recognizing “this won’t matter in 6 months” is a learned talent I wish I could give others. I sometimes feel like it may dampen my excitement for things, being the inverse, but so far that has never really been deterrent for me…

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        Chevy Bolt. It hasn’t polluted since I bought it.

        Yes, I am aware that electricity production often comes from fossil fuels. Yes, I’m aware of the pollution that stems from mining and manufacturing. You’re right that a train would be more efficient. Yes, you’re right that I’m a bad person who should know better. What else ya got?

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            Humans need to move around to be healthy regardless, so any energy consumed to pedal a bike is immaterial.

            Though I guess if the person in question just died that would be even more pollution free.

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    When I was young, I really valued the idea of technological progress. It was almost axiomatically the goal of humanity. Getting greater abilities to do more things more easily… it seemed like the ultimate goal.

    But now that I’m older, I’ve seen what happens with technological power like that, and it isn’t great. Yes, we can do more things more easily than before. And what is the result? The main result seems to be increase consolation of wealth and power, and increasing the rate at which the world’s resources are depleted.

    • People can now connect instantly and effortlessly with anyone anywhere in the world - and the result is that enormous numbers of people shun their local peers and instead have shallow parasocial relationships with strangers who’s job it is to advertise products to them.
    • Clothes are cheap and easy to create - and the result is mountains of waste created by fast-fashion low-quality throw-away clothes largely made from slave labour. Similarly for many products, in particular plastic products are now choking the world in waste.
    • Cars are more efficient, and production quality is high - and the result is massively oversized monsters, completely negating the efficiency benefit and instead increasing the amount of space and maintenance required to handle the increased size and weight of the machines. The streets are basically filled with cars and spaces for cars, with less and less space for people to do people things.
    • Half-decent AI has finally been created. It’s a long-held dream come true… except that the outcome isn’t quite what we hoped. There’s a lot to say on this topic, but just to keep it snappy, I’ll oversimplify it by saying that people are not using it to do better. They are instead outsourcing their own thoughts and imagination.

    Our silky-smooth hyper-connected ultra-convenient world is not leading people to be happier, or smarter, or kinder. And it certainly isn’t helping humanity survive longer. We’re burning out fast.

    A lot of what we have superficially looks like ‘progress’, but in full description it looks more like a dystopia. Things are easier, but perhaps the good things were already easy enough; and so the main effect is that exploitation and manipulation got easier. Even when we agree that we’re going in the wrong direction, the messages are still muddied enough that we accelerate rather than change course.

    Anyway… I don’t agree with my younger self. I no longer think that technological advances are intrinsically good. I think taking things a bit more slowly might have been more wise. I’ve thought about it a lot, and I think a core part of it is that money corrupts. Unfortunately, money is very tightly intertwined with most of what we do - so that’s a pretty difficult problem to fix. So I won’t go into more detail about that now!

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      The main result seems to be increase consolation of wealth and power, and increasing the rate at which the world’s resources are depleted.

      Welcome to capitalism.

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      people are not using it to do better. They are instead outsourcing their own thoughts and imagination

      Exactly, technology is eating society instead of society being contientious about its use of tech. I believe that the pendulum will eventually swing back and people will start to ration their use of technology, but until that happens, opting out will remain really hard and I don’t know how to work with that…

      And yes, I agree that much of the ‘progress’ has been solutions to problems people didn’t know they had. (But this is only tangentialy related to my problem.)

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    The irony is the use of technology to ask the question. Your level of tech use and engagement is a personal choice. You can minimise or stop anytime. Most choose to minimise, I’d suspect because some innovations are quite useful.

    Also, in an existence where the only constant is change, where every moment and conscious perspective is uniquely different and where novel complexity only increases, it would be wise to cultivate patience and a neutral perspective on change.

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    It would probably seem less daunting if we knew that these great technological innovations couldn’t be controlled and hoarded by a small group, but were instead widely available for the public to use on equal ground. And further, if we would all equally share in the efficiency benefits, rather than just a small group.

    Like, if my boss told me half my job was being automated by ai, but I’d still get the same salary and only have to work 2.5 days per week, I certainly wouldn’t complain.

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    At some point, there was this shift where the technology was no longer being designed to benefit the user, but to benefit the creator. The problem is that the creators are now trillion-dollar multi-national organizations who also lobby against my wellbeing and safety in areas of rulemaking and regulation. So now I am fine foregoing the “technology” whenever I can.

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      I think the thing that’s causing me the fatigue though is the constant change. For 000s of years people lived their whole lives with no technological change, whereas I’ve only been here for 2 decades and yet the world already works much differently than it did back then.

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    This is exactly how the 90s felt when the dotcom bubble was building and moores law was in high effect.

    Every 6 months your computer components were obsolete

    256MB hardrives! Holy shit sooo much space!

    Whaaaaaat 1GB drives?!? Daaaaamn

    Whoa whoa whoa CdRom? Blink I can write to cds? Whats this + - business?! Sneeze, holy shit you can rewrite a cdnow?!

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    It could be a sign that you’re too surrounded by the stuff. I used to always be tech & specs obsessed. It was like I viewed the world through the lens of technology because that was going to make new things possible.

    But then in recent years, my relationship with tech has changed and I am better for it. It’s less core to my personal existence even though it is just as handy as ever and my life is full of screens.

    It starts to sound like cliches and platitudes, but most of what makes the world beautiful and life worthwhile has not changed. Seriously just spending a lot of time outside and with the people that matter to me produce undeniable results, even if I have to drug myself to kickstart the process. But after doing that a few times, being mindful and intentional about the whole process being for positive outcomes, I start not just looking forward to those occasions but prioritizing time & money to help.

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    I don’t think it’s weird to feel exhausted by the pace of innovation, especially when the innovation has nebulous value.

    I felt this way with the wave of “smart house” stuff. I’m a software engineer, I spend all day programming and debugging stuff. I do NOT want to spend 1 fucking second of my precious finite life debugging a fucking light bulb. Not one. Oh I can say “Alexa, red alert” and all my lightbulbs turn red, fucking fuck you. I don’t want my refrigerator connected to the internet, I don’t want my toaster monitoring my speech patterns to serve me ads and customize my toasting experience.

    To every shitbag manager out there tying to shove this garbage down our throats, fuck off and die. And you might think “you don’t like a smart (whatever) then don’t buy one.” Fuck you too, over time I fucking can’t. Try to buy a tv that isn’t a fucking smart tv, you just fucking can’t anymore. And slowly but surely everything you use turns into some shitty piece of fuck.

    The good news is that AI is probably a bubble. We’ve fed the sum total of the internet into our LLMs and we’ve gotten pretty convincing liars that are sometimes right. We are running out of data and 99 out of 100 uses of AI don’t make sense.

    I’ve been in the startup scene for my entire adult career and if you talk to people that try to jam AI into their products to make investors happy you’ll hear very similar things every time. It was incredibly expensive, no one used it, and no one liked it.

    There are some use cases for AI, but not nearly as much as what’s getting thrown at the wall. AI has been through many winters where progress stalls, the hype dies out, and AI winter begins.

    Final thought, you don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. People are enamored with using AI to make false memories (sorry, there comes a point where you’ve touched up a photo so much it isn’t reality anymore), destroying their ability to use their brains for critical thinking, art, writing, reading. You don’t have to. Those people might deeply regret not having a single real picture of their child. Maybe the clouds made the photo look bad, but now you can’t remember laughing as you ran through the rain.

    Our lives do not need to be curated and polished into some technicolor madness. Do what you want and in 20 years people will ask you “how are you so interesting and fulfilled” as they shovel AI garbage into their maw. I see a future that is similar to what happened to social media (I know, I’m using social media right now, we are all hypocrites). People working everyday to present some faux reality to others, jealous of everyone else’s faux realty, unhappy and unable to go 5 god damn minutes without a dopamine hit.

    The other day I had to wait for something, I sat and looked out the window at the beautiful trees rustling gently in the wind. I took in the glory of the world around me, I sat in peace and let my mind wander. These are skills too few enjoy these days because they let the future happen to them.

    You are in charge of your life.

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      Are you mad about the technology or the underlying reasons it was born of? Honestly most people’s anger towards tech isn’t about the tech itself, but what it’s really used for

      For example, the smart fridge, on paper most people would find it a fantastic idea. But then the user-hostile features set in. An internal camera could helpfully analyze everything in your fridge and put together an ez shopping list, but then in reality we kinda get that because it was designed around things like selling data collection and ADs and then designed to break in a year or 2 and take out half the fridge along with it because they want to make more money off you every 2 years

      Now take the smart fridge in a world with strong privacy and consumer protection laws (and maybe even a capitalism free world) and it would be totally different, not only would you get cool things designed properly with heart and soul, but it’ll also last a long time. Modern tech doesn’t have to be as fragile as it is, NASAs space probes and rovers and satellites prove time and time again that “High Tech” can last with proper design and manufacturing. In the depths of space their shit is routinely lasting their original mission lengths. In space, in the top 10 most hostile places we know.

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          Who are you to dictate who needs what? I definitely “need” a smart fridge from my example because I always forget to make a list before I go to the grocery store. It would save me so much time and money.

          You honestly sound like the old fucks of ancient times past who always bitched about new “tech”:

          • Damn smartphones, ruining society
          • Damn internet, ruining society
          • Damn personal computers, ruining society
          • Damn video games, ruining society
          • Damn television, ruining society
          • Damn comic books, ruining society
          • Damn rock and roll music, ruining society
          • Damn jazz music, ruining society
          • Damn movies, ruining society
          • Damn automobiles, ruining society
          • Damn telephones, ruining society
          • Damn electricity, ruining society
          • Damn novels, ruining society
          • Damn newspapers, ruining society
          • Damn printing press, ruining society
          • Damn written language, ruining society
          • Damn iron tools, ruining society
          • Damn bronze weapons, ruining society
          • Damn agriculture, ruining society
          • Damn fire, ruining society

          Nothing is stopping you from running away into the mountains to life a tech free life

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            You honestly sound like the old fucks

            I do, and that’s what concerns me. Because I’m only in my 20s. I could disconnect for a while, but I’m always going to have to return to society, whose constant changing caused this fatigue, eventually.

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      I don’t want my refrigerator connected to the internet

      Yep

      Try to buy a tv that isn’t a fucking smart tv, you just fucking can’t anymore.

      This is what I’m on about, resisting is a loser’s game, even if you try it gets too hard :-(

      what’s getting thrown at the wall.

      Ah, well noticed. Yeah I guess a lot of the smart toasters etc is just the industry throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. You just reminded me how quickly 3D TVs disappeared after appearing.

      Our lives do not need to be curated and polished into some technicolor madness.

      Tell that to society 😩

      But yes, we are definitely on the same page.

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        I think that the best way to get a smart tv is with a big monitor and a small raspberry pi, it makes sense and you have complete control over the hardware, rejecting anti-comsumer tactics is way better than rejecting technology

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      So much anger, so much vulgarity. This is exactly how I describe each of these things. It’s fucking maddening. Add in resentment for another fucking app that, surprise, is a mediocre service disguising more marketing collection. But I’m the crazy one because I don’t want to just let it happen