• Kajika@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    knowing nothing about the situation is indeed the problem. if only this process was more transparent…

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      Being Russian => banned from doing business with the rest of the world

      That’s pretty straight forward to me.

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        You’re sounding like a certain mustache man right now. Sure, boycott states and governments, but not the people. They could just be regular Russians who just want to code to escape the bullshit that their government is spewing on TV every day. Never blame people for their governments.

        Would you be fine being blacklisted from kernel development just because of the crime of simply being your nationality?

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        and what do random developers have to do with a war between oligarchies? are we banning the dirty us imperialists next, because they do more damage than russia ever will?

        or are we finding a negative thing about every nationality and ban international opensource collaboration entirely?

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        Western chauvinism:

        the imperial core == the rest of the world

        You may not have noticed that most of the world is ignoring the international rules-based order’s sanctions. And not only almost all of the Global South, which represents ~85% of the world’s people and the bulk of the world’s production* and natural resources. Even many Global North countries are skirting their own sanctions to trade with Russia.

        The Global North is largely sanctioning itself, and Europe is paying a very high price for it. In particular high energy prices, which is eroding their industrial base even more.


        *Since the Global North in its infinite wisdom de-industrialized itself.

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          The almost the entire world is against Russia. And I don’t see China coming to Russia’s aid any time soon.

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            14 hours ago

            You’re just making it worse 😂 You really have no idea what’s going on in the real world outside of the imperial core, and you’re really sure you do.

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              14 hours ago

              You can look up the UN vote. 141 counties voted for the movement to have Russia withdraw from Ukraine. 5 were against it and 35 abstained.

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                  The UN exists to provide a forum for discourse between states, not to be an international legislature. If resolutions actually had teeth the UN would cease to exist in its current form.

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                Sure, but that vote hasn’t actually done anything, and countries continue to trade with Russia. And the Global South countries haven’t curtailed their relations with Russia one whit. In fact some are building even deeper ties with Russia. They’re building an alternative system to SWIFT, they’re trading in each others’ currencies to avoid the dollar, and they’re making plans for some kind of BANCOR-like currency. The BRICS summit is happening right now, hosted by Russia.

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                  They are build swift to trade with who?, also it’s not the country evading the sanctions, people do that the government don’t actively do that

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                    They are build swift to trade with who?

                    With each other, obviously. Probably BRICS+ states, for starters.

                    people do that the government don’t actively do that

                    I guess if you’ve never known anything but neoliberalism, you might think that. But governments do indeed do things like this.