An analysis of the Gaza MoH methodology, the exacerbating challenges it faces as the war continues, and estimates from independent researchers and humanitarian organisations.

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    16 hours ago

    Similarly, it isn’t not a genocide just because the perpetrators say it isn’t.

    Many experts and scholars do make the claim that this is genocide, and frankly a significant section of the world that doesn’t have a direct vested interest (i.e. not involved) seems to be of the opinion that it is.

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      15 hours ago

      Most people are painfully ignorant about Israel and soak up the propaganda they see on TikTok.

      An accusation of genocide is a pretty serious accusation and the onus is on people who make the accusation to prove the case. You don’t get to call it genocide just because you hate Israel.

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        15 hours ago

        No, but as I said plenty of experts and scholars are calling it one. I believe the ICJ said that it is “plausible,” which I taken to mean that it is inconclusive. Consider that this was many months ago before the more recent escalations.

        For my own part, I’m neither an expert nor do I have enough reliable, unbiased information to make any sort of assertion on the topic. Reasonably, I can only defer to the experts and try to filter out sources that have a vested interested (in either direction). There are experts saying both yes and no, so it really comes down to who you trust.

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          Newsflash: lots of these “experts” hate Israel. Same reason why they seem single-mindedly focused on such a tiny country with all the other atrocities and human rights abuses happening around the world. Did you know that just yesterday the Turkish military was bombing the Kurds?

          And no, the ICJ did not rule that it is plausible Israel is committing genocide. This is a popular misconception. The former head of the ICJ clarified the ruling: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-68906919

          “Ms Donoghue explained that the court decided the Palestinians had a “plausible right” to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had the right to present that claim in the court.”

          In other words, the court basically said the case can move forward. That’s it.

          Unfortunately, there is no unbiased information about Israel. Even the so-called experts are biased. Israel is arguably the most divisive country on the planet (which seems odd for such a tiny country of only 9 million citizens) and anybody writing about it does so because they have strong opinions about it.