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    Also fuck greedy investor urbanism. Valencia spent an enormous amount of time and money to redirect a river prone to flooding outside of the city. And then promptly urbanized the risky flood plain with housing and commerce.

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        They killed people they felt threatened by, and that they couldnt use. Teachers, doctors, authors, scientists, philosophers, social critics, journalists, midwives, artists, performers. Those are the people that died at the hands of Mao and Kim, not the capitalists whose wealth they both needed. Mao was all about investment into collectivist systems, one of the biggest factors driving The Great Leap Forward was the need to quickly develop new sources of domestic investment. And the DPRK is just a corrupt Juche system, they love foreign investors (and holding them for ransom!). Just because a few people you don’t like incidentally died in the purges too doesn’t mean they had “the right idea”, and it’s sickening to see you spout that revisionist BS here.

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        yeah we desperately need another uprising, “investors” will not guilliotine themselves.

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    Jesus fucking Christ. I get advocating for less car reliance but cheering the deaths of people just for owning cars is beyond fucked.

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        The comment was removed but it was there and it had a depressing number of up votes.

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        It absolutely does. Fucking look at it. You can’t take the dead people out of this photo, you can’t pretend they’re not there.

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          I don’t see any people in the pic other than the ones walking at the top of the frame.

          Are there dead bodies there that I’m not seeing?

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      Its black humor, not cheering the deaths of people. It’s pointing out that we’ve been warning the world for years that exactly this will happen, and now it has in a way that resembles a system correcting itself. There’s no joy in hilighting this, just ironic tragedy and the laughter of the gallows.

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        "I will shed no tears for any car owner killed in this disaster. They got what they deserved. For everyone else, I wish I knew where to donate toward any relief funds.” – SatouKazuma@lemmy.world

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        The comment is likely gone now but there was someone cheering in the comments.

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    People can hate cars AND help humans in need, even car users.

    Flooding wouldn’t be so bad without global car dependency.

    I’m sorry for all the losses the people have to endure, but after this is over, there needs to be a discussion how to prevent disaster like these or minimise their impact on human and general environment.

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        Reduced inpacts of climate change but more importantly better urban design. Long, straight, impermeable roads guide water wherever it wants to go with little resistance or slow downs. Cities can be built to be more permeable to handle water better, they can also implement stomwater retention and detention ponds.

        Many cities currently waste lots of space on asphalt for cars. We could build transit with permeable surfaces (such as grassy tram lines or cycle lanes designed from permeable materials). We could build less parking lots and save that space for stormwater ponds.

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        The financial, spatial and carbon economy of motorised private transport is inefficient, including its infrastructure. Opportunity costs of missing climate action due to economical reliance on private transport, spatial constraints of land use for traffic and inefficient housing (private transport induced sprawl) are just two examples for that.

        Climate change fuels flooding frequency and severity, so fueling climate change with fossil fuelled private transport is irresponsible.

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    What happened to basic human decency .

    They are mourning 200 dead in a disaster zone.

    Can’t you shut your fucking mouth for one week ?

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        Well, that’s vile and also a clinically psychopathic lack of empathy.

        I hope that when you grow up, you manage to reconnect with your humanity.

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          I hope that when you grow up, you manage to reconnect with your humanity.

          The same to you then.

          You remind me of the people who complain about talk of gun regulations after mass shootings.

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          The thing is, you’re both right. It’s a vile and cynical lack of empathy on both your parts. He’s exactly right, far more people die daily who get none of your empathy. If people dying on the road is supposed to change our behaviour, then what about you?

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            They’re not both right. Vile rhetoric sews division. Calling it out and appealing to humanity are acts of strength that bind us together.

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        Devastation shocks the brain full of thoughts and feelings, navigating around the rocks takes courage

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      The responses to this on the other post were the same, punitive and wrathful with no space left for critical thinking.

      How many people shop online then consume media showing the impacts of climate change or reports of warehouse working conditions within the delivery window? How many “fuck cars” users also subscribe to gentle parenting content? How many were raised in Christian homes and currently hold negative views on religion generally?

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      The destruction of automobiles during a disaster which was made far worse as a result of climate change is a very poignant juxtaposition.

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    So brave to seize on a natural disaster and massive human tragedy. How proud of yourselves you must be.

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      “Natural” disaster.

      This is like when republicans whine about how inappropriate it is to criticize loose gun regulations after a mass shooting.

      No. This is exactly the time to bring it up.

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      Gauche caviar.

      This is so ridiculous I don’t even know what to say. If you can live your life without having to use cars, then you’re extremely lucky. That is fucking rare, you know that?

      Transport exclusion is a massive problem worldwide, majority of people on Earth needs cars to make do with core activities.

      You have a choice to use cars or use public transport, and you choose public transport? Bless your heart, that is a good choice. But not everybody has that choice.

      So, kindly, shut your gaudy mouth, please.