I really don’t want you people to have to find out the hard way just how fucking stupid all of this anti-Harris shit is so close to the election.
Because that would mean that millions of Palestinians would be killed when the current genocide is turned up to 11 after President Trump gives Netanyahu a blank check. I really don’t want that. Stop trying to get Trump elected please.
Not to mention the fact that a Trump win would be catastrophic to climate action. The actual number of lives on the line here is in the hundreds of millions. Anyone who can’t decide to vote for Harris just simply cannot be trusted. They are not our allies, and we should remember who they are long after this election is over, regardless of who wins.
Remember when the left had to remessage from ‘ceasefire’ to ‘end weapons shipments’ because democrats in their nazi cynicism decided to redefine ‘ceasefire’ to mean a temporary pause in the genocide while Hamas capitulated to every zionist demand?
You’ve demonstrated a unique ability in this thread of having a memory longer than 24 hours so I’m curious what your reaction to being reminded of that is.
That’s because ending weapons shipments is something we can objectively do, and should do.
It’s not like the president can just say “I declare a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine” and it magically happen. All we can do is advocate for it.
Harris has been clear in her commitment to doing whatever it takes to reach a ceasefire. Trump has been having multiple calls a week with Netanyahu trying to prevent a ceasefire.
We demanded for almost a year that the Democrats need to stop supporting genocide. Instead Biden, Harris and the other party elites would rather hand the US to Trump than to stop more Arabs being murdered. Maybe she proves us wrong and actually puts Israel in check. But everything action so far has been the opposite of that.
I believe the US is a white supremacist empire, founded on a settler colonial genocide, which is part of why it now supports another settler colonial genocide.
There will be no change to that in the current political system. It requires a fundamental political change, probably revolution, but certainly the dismantling of the current political parties to change that.
Maybe Trump will speed up the genocide of Palestinians, but the Democrats are equally committed to it, as they have thrown away every chance to end it, while taking every chance to perpetuate it.
So your floor here is “throw gas on the fire”. Got it. You admit at best he’ll be the same, and you’re advocating for it. Your stance doesn’t seem sane for someone who wants less pain and suffering.
Didn’t answer the question. The choice is binary at this point. You can support the one person who’s actually said they’ll try and stop it, or you can throw your support in the trash and help the opposition that’s said “Finish the problem” when referring to the people of Palestine.
I don’t like being lied to. I miss when you blood soaked fucking nazi pieces of filth were slightly more honest. “Genocide is not on the ballot” you used to say. Then you’d lie about the domestic differences between the candidates. Now I guess you’re more desperate because the election is closer? Doesn’t change reality, even if you refuse to live in it. The election isn’t binary, it’s unary.
You can support the one person who’s actually said they’ll try and stop it
She didn’t even fucking say this you delusional wishcasting child. It’s terrifying how disconnected you are from reality.
Genocide is absolutely on the ballot. That lady up there said she’ll do everything in her power to stop the war. You’re advocating for throwing your hands in the air and leaving it to chance. That’s horrifying.
As much as I love that insult (“delusional wishcasting child” is excellent), that’s not me. I’m quite grounded in reality. That reality is as follows:
Even if you became president tomorrow, stabbed a bunch of senators to death, and forced the US to withdraw all military aid from Israel, blood would continue to flow like a river. The U.S. has influence right now. Throwing that influence away would leave Israel seeking other allies, like Russia, who would have no qualms about absolutely ratfucking every living person in the Gaza strip for money and influence.
The reality is that the entire situation is super fucked, has been for a very long time, and won’t magically fix itself by a washing of hands. The least bloody way forward is diplomacy. The fastest path to peace is killing everyone on one side. Israel has no reason (in their insane leadership’s mind) to pursue diplomacy, and the only reason they even pretend to is to make the U.S. happy.
I really don’t want you people to have to find out the hard way just how fucking stupid all of this anti-Harris shit is so close to the election.
Because that would mean that millions of Palestinians would be killed when the current genocide is turned up to 11 after President Trump gives Netanyahu a blank check. I really don’t want that. Stop trying to get Trump elected please.
Not to mention the fact that a Trump win would be catastrophic to climate action. The actual number of lives on the line here is in the hundreds of millions. Anyone who can’t decide to vote for Harris just simply cannot be trusted. They are not our allies, and we should remember who they are long after this election is over, regardless of who wins.
OH NO NOT THE PALESTINIANS
QUICK VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE CURRENTLY EXTERMINATING THEM
So fucking sick of this brand of genocide denial.
I’m not voting for Israel, I’m voting against the guy who is trying to prevent a ceasefire.
Remember when the left had to remessage from ‘ceasefire’ to ‘end weapons shipments’ because democrats in their nazi cynicism decided to redefine ‘ceasefire’ to mean a temporary pause in the genocide while Hamas capitulated to every zionist demand?
You’ve demonstrated a unique ability in this thread of having a memory longer than 24 hours so I’m curious what your reaction to being reminded of that is.
You are voting for genocide.
That’s because ending weapons shipments is something we can objectively do, and should do.
It’s not like the president can just say “I declare a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine” and it magically happen. All we can do is advocate for it.
Harris has been clear in her commitment to doing whatever it takes to reach a ceasefire. Trump has been having multiple calls a week with Netanyahu trying to prevent a ceasefire.
There are only three options in this election:
We demanded for almost a year that the Democrats need to stop supporting genocide. Instead Biden, Harris and the other party elites would rather hand the US to Trump than to stop more Arabs being murdered. Maybe she proves us wrong and actually puts Israel in check. But everything action so far has been the opposite of that.
Answer one simple question: Do you honestly believe Trump will be better for Palestinians?
I believe the US is a white supremacist empire, founded on a settler colonial genocide, which is part of why it now supports another settler colonial genocide.
There will be no change to that in the current political system. It requires a fundamental political change, probably revolution, but certainly the dismantling of the current political parties to change that.
Maybe Trump will speed up the genocide of Palestinians, but the Democrats are equally committed to it, as they have thrown away every chance to end it, while taking every chance to perpetuate it.
So your floor here is “throw gas on the fire”. Got it. You admit at best he’ll be the same, and you’re advocating for it. Your stance doesn’t seem sane for someone who wants less pain and suffering.
“You have to support the extermination of an entire race of people because the other side also supports it”
Didn’t answer the question. The choice is binary at this point. You can support the one person who’s actually said they’ll try and stop it, or you can throw your support in the trash and help the opposition that’s said “Finish the problem” when referring to the people of Palestine.
I don’t like being lied to. I miss when you blood soaked fucking nazi pieces of filth were slightly more honest. “Genocide is not on the ballot” you used to say. Then you’d lie about the domestic differences between the candidates. Now I guess you’re more desperate because the election is closer? Doesn’t change reality, even if you refuse to live in it. The election isn’t binary, it’s unary.
She didn’t even fucking say this you delusional wishcasting child. It’s terrifying how disconnected you are from reality.
And Tankies remain confused as to why the rest of the left doesn’t tolerate them.
Genocide is absolutely on the ballot. That lady up there said she’ll do everything in her power to stop the war. You’re advocating for throwing your hands in the air and leaving it to chance. That’s horrifying.
As much as I love that insult (“delusional wishcasting child” is excellent), that’s not me. I’m quite grounded in reality. That reality is as follows:
Even if you became president tomorrow, stabbed a bunch of senators to death, and forced the US to withdraw all military aid from Israel, blood would continue to flow like a river. The U.S. has influence right now. Throwing that influence away would leave Israel seeking other allies, like Russia, who would have no qualms about absolutely ratfucking every living person in the Gaza strip for money and influence.
The reality is that the entire situation is super fucked, has been for a very long time, and won’t magically fix itself by a washing of hands. The least bloody way forward is diplomacy. The fastest path to peace is killing everyone on one side. Israel has no reason (in their insane leadership’s mind) to pursue diplomacy, and the only reason they even pretend to is to make the U.S. happy.