• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    People who are in an excited emotional state just aren’t going to do well thinking that stuff through.

    I’m not immune to it either, I just dont have tiktok or facebook at all to avoid it.

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      4 days ago

      People who are in an excited emotional state just aren’t going to do well thinking that stuff through.

      i suppose so, but it literally only takes one “is this actually true?” to check to see if it’s true. If people are as “skeptical” as they claim to be about mainstream media, i fail to see how they don’t understand that google exists and is useful in the 21st century. Though to be fair, it’s harder to use now.

      I’m definitely not immune to it either, but i operate on a strictly factual basis, so it’s really hard for me to get caught up in propaganda.

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        4 days ago

        Nobody operates on facts alone. Unless you were there when it happened, you have to trust a source to some degree.

        Quite a lot of people just say fuck it, if its all varying degrees of shit, I’m not going to listen to any of it.

        Thats how word of mouth type stuff ends up on fox news, because even they know a lot of right wing Americans wont trust professional news stories over their neighbors anecdotes.

        We might think we use better sources, and check into things more vigorously, but our conclusions still require faith as much as any republicans beliefs.

        We still haven’t even figured out how to refute religion conclusively, for example. Juries still out on whether religion is fantasy or actual reality, whether we think thats ridiculous or not.

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          Nobody operates on facts alone.

          this is true, and i appropriately hedge my positions based on this, you can’t make a perfectly accurate statement unless you have 100% of the relevant knowledge, and you won’t so you just don’t. It’s that simple.

          As for sources, it’s not hard to find reliable sources, you just need to be able to dig around a bit. Scientific research as much as republicans hate on it, still give me faith in humanity so.

          Quite a lot of people just say fuck it, if its all varying degrees of shit, I’m not going to listen to any of it.

          this is the problem, people either need to stop doing this, or they need to hedge no opinions at all, i have a couple posts about “people caring too much” and there are many useless arguments i’ve had over this kind of thing, if people would just, stop caring about most things, it would solve most of these problems, unfortunately people like caring about useless things.

          We still haven’t even figured out how to refute religion conclusively, for example. Juries still out on whether religion is fantasy or actual reality, whether we think thats ridiculous or not.

          yeah, and this is actually a really good argument for what we’re engaging in. It shows that we hedge properly, and that we will concede if we need to, given appropriate information. The problem is that nobody likes to talk like this, and nobody likes to listen to people talking like this.

          More people just need to start doing this, it’s that simple.