• lath@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    What a dumbass take.

    The difference is much simpler. Patriotism for internal conflicts, nationalism for external conflicts. Both for manufactured Boogeymen fueled by malicious propaganda.

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      4 months ago

      imo, actual patriotism would be more like “I want to make my house as good as I can.”

      You don’t have to think your country is the best to be patriotic with respect to that country.

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        4 months ago

        Nah, it’s very subjective. Idealistically patriotism is more like “I want to make the common house everyone on the street lives in more pleasant to live in for everyone.”

        Realistically it’s more like “I want to make my house how I think it should be better. Why doesn’t everyone else do the same?”

        Each individual has their own idea about what’s the patriotic thing to do, even if that ends up to be the wrong thing in someone else’s view. That’s why I say it’s about internal conflicts. Your patriotism and your neighbor’s can come at odds with each other in various points. Neither of you might be wrong, but you’ll still have to pick something that goes against those beliefs eventually. Better for you, worse for someone else, but pat oneself on the back with the excuse “the good of the many”.

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        4 months ago

        I did talk. You didn’t. This comment of yours… Zero substance. Not even dumb, just empty.