• Lotarion@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It is, that community will still have its marginalized groups that don’t get representation, and if anything, on a smaller scale it’s harder to form a group that would argue for necessary support for these people

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      5 months ago

      on a smaller scale it’s harder to form a group that would argue for necessary support for these people

      Idk, I kinda gotta disagree with that. Sure, mob violence against “undesirables” is always gonna be a problem, but communities know each other and are less likely to see different constituent groups as “outsiders”

      But in this specific example, where we are talking about “how do we decide who gets to use violence to keep the peace,” I think community-based democratic approaches are the best option.

      I also gotta disagree with

      that community will still have its marginalized groups that don’t get representation

      because by definition, if there is a marginalized group, they are not part of that community, and instead would form their own peacekeepers, like Guardian Angels.

      Obviously there is a benefit to federalization, I’m not arguing for nor do I support statelessness, but I think if democracy is emphasized from the ground up, those issues naturally tend to erode. Like I think the core problem which necessitates the federal government stepping in to ensure rights comes from a lack of democracy.

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        5 months ago

        but communities know each other and are less likely to see different constituent groups as “outsiders”

        Tell that to every gay kid who grew up in a small rural Christian town…

        form their own peacekeepers

        So you expect every marginalized group to have their own personal cops? What about cross-sectional minorities. I don’t know how this works in your head but whatever you’re trying to say here is not translating well.

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          5 months ago

          So you expect every marginalized group to have their own personal cops?

          That is so clearly not what I’m saying, have a good day.

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            5 months ago

            So not the person you’re replying to but maybe instead of disengaging you reevaluate and rephrase because following along that’s sure as shit how I read it too and if that’s not your idea, what is?