Conservative social democrat in the Blue Labour tradition. Ally of Jews, enemy of antisemites. Interests in psychology, theology, and literature.

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  • the people in it is native.

    Some were, some weren’t. Depends how far back you want to go, which wave of mass migration you’re talking about.

    Israel is nonexistent before 1948 and the people were brought from outside

    Except, of course, that none of this is correct.

    First, there’s the ancient Kingdom of Judah. The Jews are the same people.

    Second, Jews maintained a continuous presence in the land of Israel-Palestine ever since then. They are, therefore, indigenous to the land.

    Third, the majority of Jewish Israelis are Mizrahis – Jews from Arab lands who’ve lived there since the Second Temple Period (516 BC - 70 AD), who were forced to flee from these neighbouring Muslim states due to violence, pogroms, repression and the theft of their property.

    We know from numerous scientific studies of Jewish and Palestinian DNA that they’re almost identical, and share a common root, most likely both being descendents of the ancient Canaanites. Here’s a very recent one. There’s almost no genetic difference with ‘European’ Ashkenazi Jews either, because they very rarely intermarried with other faith/ethnic groups. Here’s another from 2015 in Haaretz.

    Palestinians and Jews are basically cousins, genetically speaking, and both are indigenous to the land. Palestinians perceive it as an invasion, and that’s understandable despite not being true. To the Jews, they were returning from exile to their homeland only to find that there were squatters who’d let the place fall to ruin while they were gone, which is also understandable though not true.

    They’ll find a way to live together one day, but it’ll require both sides to accept the rights of the other.