You have every right to be sick and tired of this but it doesn’t make you right. Currently they have a zero chance to win but there are rules set in place by the Dems and Reps that prevent them from competing. If a third party candidate can poll at 15 percent for instance they’ve surpassed that barrier to entry into a national debate. There are other hurdles too but constantly voting out of fear makes this impossible.

https://www.debates.org/about-cpd/overview/

In addition saying they emerge as if their only goal is to circumvent the election isn’t true at all. You can see a list of non affiliated candidates working for people all year at the link below.

https://ballotpedia.org/Current_independent_and_minor_party_federal_and_state_officeholders

Makes sense. There two party system is vehicular to the existing two parties. Why give a third option.

I again think you need to settle down. I am not voting third party because I like you apparently will just view out of fear.

That said, The math had not been explained to me so show it to me. post it for anyone who agrees with me. Show me the math.

Next you’ve decided that I have some feeling of superiority. I don’t. I simply think the two party system has failed us and needs to change. People in power have a stake in keeping a two party system for their own benefit, and it infuriates me.

Settle down and re-read what I wrote. I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say a third party is crucial for our Republic.

Agreed. I’ve voted in every election I’ve been able to for 20 years, and I try to have reasonable conversations about things like this with people on the other side of the aisle. It becomes a bit demoralizing and I’m a bit disillusioned.

I’ve written to many of my state and federal legislators over the span of 20+ years. it’s not effective. We need campaign finance before, we need to overturn citizens United, and we need to change our two party system.

I understand your perspective but I disagree on some points.

The state of Florida outlawed rank choice voting

I too will vote Harris, but I think it’s important to understand that voting out of fear is not going to fix our extremely broken two party system. Voting third party is not a vote for Trump, I think it’s often a vote born of a broken two party system.

Despite knowing that I can’t bring myself to vote third party out of fear that I may not get another chance to vote if Trump takes power.

The first few octets of the Mac address are unique to a manufacturer. This may at least help narrow which device it is. You can look it up at https://macaddress.io/

But did they count Tim’s pokemon cards?