“it’s weird and should be more stigmatized” that seems to be making a moral claim right? I guess you never explicitly said that it’s because it’s weird that it should be stigmatized, but it certainly seemed to be structured like that.

And ah maybe I misunderstood, what you were saying just sounds like how a lot of ppl talk about it on the vegan forums I used to regular, lmao.

I don’t think “it’s weird therefore bad” is a good argument. If you’re gonna argue for veganism (which I don’t have a problem work doing!) I think there are way, way better reasons.