• HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Further, is it really that hard to grasp that in our stupid electoral system the choice is between either Trump or Harris

    Voting third-party is also a choice.

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          3 months ago

          Pretty stupid reason to drop Harris when the other team would be far worse on that one issue.

          Unless, of course, the real motivation is as a spoiler candidate.

          So is there an “Abandon Trump” campaign? Because trump is universally worse on Gaza.

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            3 months ago

            Unless, of course, the real motivation is as a spoiler candidate.

            You’re honestly just driving me away from Harris.

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              Hey man, vote how you want.

              We both know that the election is between Harris and Trump, at least baring some unforeseeable thing happening like trump dying from choking down a hamburger.

              We also know that Stein has had dinner with Putin, and wants to pull the US out of nato, and in none of the pro-stein/Green Party stuff here, has there been any criticism of trump.

              I would love it if the US didn’t have a de facto 2 party system, but we do. That’s how it is. Not voting for Harris isn’t a vote for trump, but then, you should ask yourself which of the two candidates of the 2 parties that actually have a chance, is the one who best represents you.

              Because if you care about Gaza and what Israel is doing, that’s not trump.

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              3 months ago

              Oh no! I better stop saying how I see things, if you’re being driven away from Harris. My sincerest apologies.

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                3 months ago

                Oh no! I better stop saying how I see things

                Well to be fair, I said how I see things and it inspired people to actually follow me around Lemmy and vote down every single article I post, regardless of content. So…

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              2 months ago

              You’re honestly just driving me away from Harris.

              I feel same way. This crowd and their bullying attitude has definitely reinforced my choice to vote third party. I’m more proud of it every day that I read replies here.

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      3 months ago

      A choice that helps elect a side you’re least aligned with.

      Let’s say, for the sake of argument, you agree with Harris 90% of the time, and you agree with Trump, I dunno, 4% of the time (hey, he’s right on not taxing tips, right?)

      But your 10% disagreement causes you to vote 3rd party.

      That 3rd party has 0 chance of winning. Source: No 3rd party has won ANY state since 1968, and even then, they didn’t win enough to sway the election.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_United_States_presidential_election

      So you’ve removed a vote from a viable candidate, whom you agree with 90% of the time, and given it to a non-viable candidate. Had they not been an option, your vote would have supported the candidate most in line with you.