• Rolando@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Surrealism is always antifascist.

    I dunno. Doublethink is pretty surreal, but it supports fascism. If you’re just talking about art, I think you could make the case that the Italian Futurists were at least Surrealist-adjacent, and some of them supported fascism.

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      2 months ago

      I’d argue semantically that surrealism is that which lies under reality whereas Doublethink (and other Orwellian language) lies over reality

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        2 months ago

        You may be thinking of 'Pataphysics:

        the science of that which is superinduced upon metaphysics, whether within or beyond the latter’s limitations, extending as far beyond metaphysics as the latter extends beyond physics

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          'pataphysics is an extension of metaphysics - both of which extend the concept of “that which is beyond

          although connected - surrealism from the French for “under reality” is more about incongruity with what is real, but meta- and 'pata-physics are looking at what is beyond the physical.

          Dream-like things like a star with a face are surreal, something like an actual sentient star would be 'pataphysical