• @phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Insult someone, get insulted back with a good burn and threaded to go to HR. Loads of adults in that room

  • @nycki@lemmy.world
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    i want to like this but I have to assume anyone still using pepe against the creator’s wishes is a shitbag

    • @Laborer3652@reddthat.com
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      If there’s one thing I do when I make a meme its definitely contact the creator and ask if my specific meme goes against their personally held beliefs. Yes, this is a completely normal thing to do.

      Its really annoying when I want to make a Huck Finn meme because I have to hold a seance for Sam Clement and he can be a real asshole when you wake him from the dead.

    • @Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com
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      I mean I’d wager vast majority of the internet doesn’t have an inkling of who the creator was or his wishes, they see the format and make their own.

  • @ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    “Remember when a colonizing power tried to exterminate your people?”

    Haw haw.

    Though seriously most Americans think the potato famine was a natural disaster and have no idea why it is called the great hunger.

    • @Juice@midwest.social
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      During the American War of Independence the reins were loosened a little. Further concessions had to be granted during the French Revolution. Ireland rose so quickly that her people threatened to outstrip the English. The English government drove them to rebellion and achieved the Union [390] by bribery. The Union delivered the death blow to reviving Irish industry. On one occasion Meagher said: all Irish branches of industry have been destroyed, all we have been left is the making of coffins. It became a vital necessity to have land; the big landowners leased their lands to speculators; land passed through four or five lease stages before it reached the peasant, and this made prices disproportionately high. The agrarian population lived on potatoes and water; wheat and meat were sent to England; the rent was eaten up in London, Paris and Florence. In 1836, £7,000,000 was sent abroad to absent landowners. Fertilisers were exported with the produce and rent, and the soil was exhausted. Famine often set in here and there, and owing to the potato blight there was a general famine in 1846. A million people starved to death. The potato blight resulted from the exhaustion of the soil, it was a product of English rule.

      Through the repeal of the Corn Laws Ireland lost her monopoly position on the English market, the old rent could no longer be paid. High prices of meat and the bankruptcy of the remaining small landowners further contributed to the eviction of the small peasants and the transformation of their land into sheep pastures. Over half a million acres of arable land have not been tilled since 1860. The yield per acre has dropped: oats by 16 per cent, flax by 36 per cent, potatoes by 50 per cent. At present only oats are cultivated for the English market, and wheat is imported.

      With the exhaustion of the soil, the population has deteriorated physically. There has been an absolute increase in the number of lame, blind, deaf and dumb, and insane in the decreasing population.

      Over 1,100,000 people have been replaced by 9,600,000 sheep. This is a thing unheard of in Europe. The Russians replace evicted Poles with Russians, not with sheep. Only under the Mongols in China was there once a discussion whether towns should be destroyed to make room for sheep.

      – International Workingmen’s Association 1867 Record of Speech by Karl Marx

    • @0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      176 hours ago

      honestly I just read it as Irish people liking potatoes, similar to the stereotype that Germans like sauerkraut

      • @TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
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        Irish people were forced to eat potatoes because they were subjugated by british lords who took everything else they farmed. When the potato “famine” happened, they were actually still producing plenty of other food, just that the British lords didnt care and still forced them to hand it over.

        Admittedly this is the extent of my knowledge on the situation, so you should look it up yourself if you want to know more.

        The “Joke” at the irish guy in the greentext is actually pretty insensitive and rude, much moreso than asking a german why he didnt order sauerkraut.

        Potatoes aren’t even native to Ireland.

        • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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          Yeah about a million Irish died and a million emigrated.

          Ireland lost a quarter of it’s population.

          If the story wasn’t gake and fay, and if that joke about bombing hospitals gets someone into trouble, then the potato joke definitely should as well.

          • Gadg8eer
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            I am at the point where I no longer care who is or isn’t spreading fake news. I TRIED being generous and patient, but I’m at my limit and I don’t care anymore.

            I hate all of you. Humans. I hate the entire fucking human race. You won’t FUCKING let me have my opinion. You INSIST I change my beliefs to match yours.

            I HATE YOU. I HATE EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF YOU. I WANT THIS ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET NUKED BECAUSE YOU INSIST THAT I AM NOT ENTITLED TO KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE AND DO WHAT I DO.

            I don’t even expect anyone to change for my sake. I expect you to die because I hate you for being human. Why do I hate all other humans? Because you hated me, you took EVERYTHING from me. YOU DON’T DESERVE TO EVER BE HAPPY ABOUT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN!

          • @TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
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            Theres a lot they don’t teach in school! Its been over a decade for me but from what I remember “world history” class was basically just WWI and WWII.

      • @Juice@midwest.social
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        It was colonialism and the primitive accumulation stage of capitalism, but racism often runs in the same circles

  • @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    Seems like everyone there but anon didn’t understand the insult implied and got upset when it was returned in kind.

    • @linearchaos@lemmy.world
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      Like all other 4chan it’s just fake news, but it would make a lot more sense to school them and what the potato famine was actually about rather than to assume they’re getting in a pissing match.

      Also, in any case where coworkers are worried enough about race and politics to go to HR they’re not going to sit around and talk about ethnic stereotypes. If you’re going to sit around and talk about ethnicity and stereotypes you’ve already made a social pact that everybody isn’t going to get butt hurt and go to HR.

      At my old place five of us got together once every few weeks and had a nice dinner out. It was America so nobody that was there was first generation anything. We were descendants, Irish Israeli, black, Vietnamese. If the Jewish guy would have made the potato famine joke to the Irish guy, and the Irish guy did come back with bombing hospitals, The worst outcome would be the Jewish guy would have said touche new subject and we would have continued bs about work, sports, or technology.

      • @ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
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        If it were actually a true story, maybe autistic OP thought he was returning the joke in kind. “Lol shouldn’t you be starving because the British stole all your crops but potatoes”, “lol shouldn’t you be bombing hospitals”. Seems like a fair trade if you don’t understand what was intended. Signed: an autist.

        • @linearchaos@lemmy.world
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          24 hours ago

          My son has challenges, and I understand the story in context.

          My point is the group at the table would likely not have responded in whole that way.

    • sunzu2
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      That’s the their entire MO…

      Israelis are fuxking idiots if they think anyone is going to suffer them going forward.

      No quarter for genocide enablers.

  • @cybersandwich@lemmy.world
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    The only response to that should have been a “too soooon!” Followed by uproarus laughter

    That’s a hilarious retort imo.

  • Flax
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    186 hours ago

    Once I had a teacher who was trying to boast to me that his uncle or someone worked in engineering some American bomber, and I responded with “how many iraqis did that kill?” I didn’t get into trouble.

    • @Vilian@lemmy.ca
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      i mean it’s school, the op can lose it’s job, but that depends on what’s his job

      • Flax
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        I still could have gotten punished ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

  • Liz
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    458 hours ago

    Who fucking reports comments made outside of work to HR? Learn how to handle uncomfortable social situations on your own you little tattler.

    • @Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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      The fact that some event happened outside of work hours by no means disqualifies it as legitimate harassment. We should absolutely not be disparaging people for invoking this protection. Think of all the vulnerable groups who may be less likely to speak up after some shitty behavior if we start shitting on people for invoking this protection.

      A hostile work environment claim may include conduct that occurs in a work-related context outside an employee’s regular workplace.[219] For instance, harassment directed at an employee during the course of offsite employer-required training occurs within the “work environment,” even if the training is not conducted at the employer’s facility.[220]

      Example 53: Harassment During Off-Site Employer-Hosted Party Was Within Work Environment. Fatima’s employer hosts its annual holiday party in a private restaurant. One of her coworkers, Tony, drinks to excess, and at the end of the evening attempts to grope and kiss Fatima. Although Tony’s behavior occurred outside Fatima’s regular workplace and at a private restaurant unaffiliated with her employer, it occurred in a work-related context, the company-sponsored holiday party. Therefore, based on these facts, the harassment occurred in Fatima’s work environment for purposes of a Title VII sexual harassment claim.

      https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/enforcement-guidance-harassment-workplace#_Toc164808037

      • BougieBirdie
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        I agree, this is a work function so HR could be invoked.

        That said, I’m with Anon on this one. His coworker started it, and while on the surface Anon’s response sounds much darker, Anon is punching up and Israeli Coworker is punching down.

        The potato famine was an economic genocide incited by colonial powers. You’d think if they get a laugh out of that they’d also get a laugh about currently ongoing genocides.

      • @GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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        Yes please daddy HR please mediate this mild discomfort between two coworkers because we cannot be bothered to just apologize to each other and move on on our own

        Dont get me wrong i dont disagree with you that some people depend on the protection it offers, but it also makes me wonder how the person gets by outside work when they have to solve disagreements and rude interactions on their own.

  • @fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
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    One thing I learnt in Ireland is you better have a thick skin because no quarter is given when it comes to slagging and taking the piss. And the more you take yourself seriously and the more they will gang up until you learn to shut the fuck up. Absolutely love it.

  • Caveman
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    Gotta say, it’s fun to read in-depth conversation explainers from other autistic people. As an autistic person myself I think it’s quite fun and informative.